[orca-list] Orca and Firefox 3 - carret control

["Rich Caloggero" <rjc MIT EDU>]

> Seems that comboboxes should work as follows:
> * if you arrow to them, they should stay collapsed till you press space
> * if you tab into them, they should open by default
> * an opened combobox can be collapsed with escape
> * if its collapsed then arrows just move you away from it onto other 
> objects
>
> This begs the question though: how should text boxes be handled? Its kind 
> of a pain to have to escape from them even if your just reading through a 
> document. Seems to me that the only control that needs this special 
> handling is the textarea, since single line text files can be bypassed 
> with up/down arrows. Perhaps the textarea could require enter to be 
> pressed before it can be edited; and require an escape to stop editing. 
> When not in edit mode, arrows just move past it, and read the contents if 
> there are any.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina rednote net>
> To: "Joanmarie Diggs" <joanmarie diggs gmail com>
> Cc: <oedipus hicom net>; "orca-list" <orca-list gnome org>
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 3:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [orca-list] Performance enhancements for Firefox 3
>
>
> > Hi, Joanmarie:
> >
> > Joanmarie Diggs writes:
> > > > ..., is the confusion between down-arrow in a combo-box and down-arrow
> > > > for content navigation on the agenda for enhancement? Is that an FF
> > > > issue? Do I need to explain myself more on this point?
> > >
> > > I could use some more explanation I'm afraid.  If you're not in a combo
> > > box, down arrow moves you from line to line.  If you are in a combo box,
> > > down arrow moves you to the next item in the combo box.  That's a
> > > Firefox thang.
> >
> > The problem occurs, imho, when you down-arrow through text, but land
> > inside a combo without realizing it. Subsequent down-arrows alter the
> > combobox setting, rather than taking you to subsequent lines. Yes, it's
> > very possible to land in, and change the value of a combo without
> > realizing it.
> >
> > > We will be adding commands to move to the next object
> > > which should be useful for escaping combo boxes.  However right now, if
> > > you are on a collapsed combo box, left and right should move you off of
> > > it.  You can also tab away from them.
> > >
> > > So.... What should we be doing differently?  If it's a bug, then I'll
> > > see about getting it fixed soon. (Agency holiday shutdown means more
> > > Orca time next week.  Woo hoo!)  If it's a user interaction change, then
> > > I will leave that to Mike Pedersen to discuss and "spec out."
> >
> >
> > Suggest mimicing the behavior in applications where one first presses
> > spacebar to activate the combobox change. That would make Orca more
> > consistent, imho.
> >
> > But, we should probably ask community opinion on this. I've been caught
> > by this one so much, I suspect I'm not the only one has stumbled into
> > the problem. Yes, I understand how to undo, etc., but an ounce of
> > prevention, especially if it brings Orca into more consistent behavior,
> > is probably worthy of consideration. I'm not on the FF list, but will
> > forward this to someone who is and can push to that discussion as well.
> >
> > Thanks, Joanmarie.
> >
> > Janina
> >
> >
> > > Thanks!
> > > --Joanie
> >
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