Re: [orca-list] Reading dialog boxes with Orca

[Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>]

The reading of static text sounds like an interesting idea as well.  I 
wonder if we could make this a new keybinding that is related to the 
SayAll command.  For example, maybe a double press of SayAll would 
obtain just the static text and read it?

Will

PS - We currently just call unrelated labels static text.  It works OK 
for the most part, but can fall down sometimes when the the application 
doesn't relate labels to the things they are labelling.

Rich Caloggero wrote:
> Perhaps instead of a "read entire dialog" command, orca could try and be 
> clever. Perhaps it could implement a command that reads the first bit of 
> static text it finds in the window. Maybe a second press would read all 
> of the static text it finds in the window.
>
> Not exactly sure how one might identify static text in GTK/Gnome apps.  
> If there is no object type specifically for this, then perhaps there is 
> some sort of conventional pattern that could let orca make an educated 
> guess as to what text to read when the dialog is launched.
>
> Just my two cents...
> -- Rich
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willie Walker" <William Walker Sun COM>
> To: "Jeffrey Shockley" <jawswizard ec rr com>
> Cc: <orca-list gnome org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 1:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [orca-list] Reading dialog boxes with Orca
>
>
> > Hi Jeffrey:
> >
> > Welcome to the Orca list!
> >
> > The normal operating mode of Orca is "focus tracking mode".  In focus
> > tracking mode, you interact with any application as any user would using
> > the built-in keyboard navigation mechanisms of GNOME.  For example, as
> > you 'Tab' around the interface or interact with objects, such as
> > pressing 'Space' to toggle check boxes or typing text into text areas,
> > Orca will present the information to you via the combinations of speech,
> > braille, and/or magnification that you have specified.  That is, you
> > merely interact with applications without needing to know any extra Orca
> > keyboard commands.
> >
> > When you use an application for the first time, or if you just want to
> > get a better idea of what is on the screen, you may often want to
> > explore a window without changing anything inside it. This includes not
> > even tabbing around the interface. As such, "focus tracking mode" may
> > not always be useful and you will need to use other features of Orca,
> > such as "flat review" and "where am I" that are controlled by key
> > bindings specific to Orca. When you press these key bindings, nothing
> > happens in the application. Instead, Orca just presents the information
> > you have requested.
> >
> > To get you started, the keypad keys in the desktop keyboard layout are
> > used to do a lot of the flat review and where am I stuff.  Keypad keys
> > 7/8/9 are used for exploring by line, 4/5/6 for exploring by word, and
> > 1/2/3 for exploring by character.
> >
> > Having said all that, Orca currently does not have an automatic "say
> > all" of a dialog window.  We're tracking the development of that via
> > this bug:
> >
> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354462
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > Will
> >
> > Jeffrey Shockley wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > I'm new to both Orca and this list.
> > > I just started using a Ubuntu live CD yesterday because I wanted to play
> > > with it and see how it works.
> > > I have looked on the Gnome website in the keyboard commands sections for
> > > laptops, since I'm running the live CD on a laptop.
> > > The one command I can not find is one to read dialog boxes.
> > > Does a  command exist for doing this? If so could someone please give me
> > > the laptop keyboard command for accomplishing this task?
> > > Thanks!
> > > Jeffrey Shockley
> > >
> > > Check out my blog!
> > > The URL is
> > > http://jeffreyshockley.livejournal.com
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