Re: wireless hardware disable switch forbids the use of external wifi cards

[maliron <robert piecesofreeses com>]

Dan Williams wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 21:50 -0500, Mikhail Zakharov wrote:
> 
> *You* know it's external.  It's a bit harder to figure out that it's
> external;  going to that much work isn't really worthwhile.  I suppose
> you could go through HAL and see if one of the parents of the card was a
> CardBus slot, or a PCMCIA slot, or a CF slot, or an SDIO slot (except
> some SDIO slots are internal and so that doesn't work), or an
> ExpressCard slot.
> 

Jesus Dan, if you simply don't want to take the time to code a new feature,
or personally have some war on feature creep, then just say so. I can't
stand it when all you do is fire back negative replies on why you can't do
it, rather then actually READING what the users are saying. 

I will more than likely get flamed, and have no chance at getting a response
at all now, but here goes anyway.

I think what everyone here is asking for is some simple control of
NetworkManager. Perhaps something as simple as a config file that will allow
us to choose which cards are handled by NetworkManagers.

Even keep it as just a config file, with no GUI to change the setting, since
you feel users are too stupid to make their own choice, and NM needs to do
everything for us.

I run GNU/Linux for the massive amount of control I have over the OS and how
things work. I just started using Ubuntu, formerly a Gentoo user, and I have
to say the "it just works" factor has been a huge sigh of relief. NM is
hands down better that working with wpa_supplicant from console. But if we
start to scratch the surface and try to stray away from the norm, we get
punched in the face by one of the devs.

SkyNetManager has massive potential, but power users need some more granular
control. I don't even want to deal with the dumb RF switch, in fact I have
it disabled in bios. I run 2 wifi cards, because I can be connected to a
network and scanning with Kismet at the same time. Which IMHO does not seem
like that unusual of a circumstance.

Why in the world would the default config with 2 wifi cards, be to have both
of them connect to the AP at the same time? I am curious what NM decides to
do if it already has a wired connection and the wireless AP happens to be in
range?

I really don't mean to start any issues, but Dan's "we can't do it" attitude
was starting to get to me.
Not to mention I found this thread looking for a way to prevent NM from
taking control of my "sniffing card" which seems impossible at this time. 

Sorry if I offend...
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