Re: Network Manager does not find system wide connections

[Brian Morrison <bdm fenrir org uk>]

On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 00:58:22 +0100
Timothy Murphy <gayleard eircom net> wrote:

> Brian Morrison wrote:
> 
> >> I do not believe that it was a good idea to use nm as a standard
> >> software tool in ubuntu.
> > 
> > Works perfectly fine in Fedora....
> 
> You should say, "It works fine for ME in Fedora".
> It is obvious from the Fedora newsgroups that many people
> have serious problems with NM.

I should have added a tongue-in-cheek smiley.

NM does actually do what I need, but I can see that it could be a
problem if I were trying to do something more complex.

Networking is a complex area. Everyone has a different need.

> 
> I don't, personally, but I find the complete lack of documentation
> a major drawback with NM.

That's true for many packages, the difficulty is that documentation
needs stability and rapid development doesn't provide that. Fedora is
about rapid development....

> The whole point of Linux is that it is not magic;
> you are meant to be able to work out what is going on.
> 

There is a complex interaction between NM, dbus and various other
things like udev, hal (becoming deprecated), PolicyKit etc. All of
these packages do something different but in a way that isn't always
clear.

If anyone has any bright ideas about how to describe their interaction
in a clear and simple manner please go ahead. I have not managed to
work it out completely, so I suppose I should feel lucky that NM works
for me.

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Brian Morrison

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