Re: stupid question - duplicated list ? (ALMOST solved!)

[Andrew <andrew2006 flight us>]

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>>>
>>>wlan3: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/net_00_1d_d9_5f_d9_04
>>>wlan3: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/net_00_1d_d9_5f_d9_04_2
>>>
>>>Which means HAL sees two wireless adapters.  Same thing on the latitude.
>>>So this is actually a HAL bug.  If HAL stops thinking there are two wifi
>>>cards, then NM will stop thinking there are two.
>>
>>Prompted by the above I upgraded the (Fedora 9 stock) hal package to versions 
>
>>0.5.11-2.fc9 (yum update) and 0.5.11rc2 (had to compile the latter for the 
>>64bit fedora, since no 64bit package avail.), and, lo and behold, the pesky 
>>duplication is gone! Whew!!
>
>I have to qualify my jubilation above:
>
>I was wrong to assume that upgrading hal fixed the duplication problem.  It 
>turns out that RESTARTING haldaemon makes the duplication go away, 
>temporarily, until the next reboot. (In both of the upgrades i mentioned, i, 
>naturally, restarted haldaemon after upgrading hal, but after a reboot the 
>duplication came back)
>
>>As has been said many times, many ways -- you da man! 
>>:-)
>
>(Although, Dan, you still identified the source of the problem correctly, of 
>course)
>
>>Well, I've never seen it on F9 machines .... 
>> It _could_ be related to udev rules for
>>renaming network devices as well.
>>
>>Could you try removing /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and
>>then reboot and see if the devices go away?
>>
>>What version of the udev package do you have installed? I think the
>>latest is udev-124-2.fc9.
>
>i still have not exhausted my new debugging tasklist or new googling keywords, 
>since your reply, but it's taking a while, so here are some preliminary 
>findings:
>
>moving /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent... did not help. If anything, it may 
>have made my X session hang (i'm still investigating, can't get back into 
>gnome, possibly other causes)
>
>On both systems the udev is "udev-120-5.20080421git.fc9*"

OK, i yum-updated the 32-bit system to udev-124-2.fc9 and rebooted. Problem still there.

There doesn't seem to be a 64-bit package yet; do you recommend i compile udev? (Not sure how involved or risky that is. Building Hal involved various ./configure --enable-* options and yum-installing their corresponding *-devel packages; a small hassle, but feasible)

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My googling is not yielding much.

I am completely stupefied by being alone in this. The 32-bit *and* the 64-bit Fedora 9 DVD iso images i downloaded, plus the install DVD I snail-mail-ordered all seem to contain the bug; I used all of them to install on many systems and never saw the nm-applet list without duplication, ever.

And yet, Dan reports never having seen the phenomenon on Fedora 9 systems. Nor can i find something similar online. Completely and utterly stumped.

TIA

andrew