Re: A comment on NetworkManager

[Gene Heskett <gene heskett verizon net>]

John Lagrue wrote:
> On 11/05/06, Gene Heskett <gene heskett verizon net> wrote:
> > I wonder why it is that negative comments I make about NetworkManager
> > seem to always go into a black hole, never coming back from the list.
> >
> > It appears to me that there might be a small snowballs chance in hell of
> > its working if two conditions are met:
> >
> > 1. Must be running gnome or it appears all the tools aren't available
> > 2. Must NOT be using ndiswrapper.
>
>
> I agree about gnome - which to my mind is a  large disadvantage. It 
> means I
> have to be running a  GUI before it will do anything.
>
> But it works a treat with ndiswrapper on my Fedora 5, as it did on FC 
> 4 and
> FC 3 before that.
>
> JDL
And I repeat, here, running kde, all it does is tear down the network 
and hang.  You can stop it, kill it, do anything you want, but the only 
way to restore network function through ANY port, ethernet or wireless, 
is a full, powerdown reset. A normal reboot will not do it.  Tested many 
times.

Rosanna's docs leave way too much to the users imagination, showing only 
what she did that made it work, and absolutely no discussion of why it 
worked or of what might be wrong it it doesn't.

Here it doesn't, and ATM I'm firmly of the belief that its at least 75% 
because I'm a KDE fan.  OTOH, the default gnome install is still here, 
and I believe that a 'switchdesk gnome' and an X restart would recover 
it.  However, I had such a hell of a time getting it truely into the kde 
camp that I'm not inclined to want to try the backswitch & test it.

IMO, a place like NM is a hell of a platform to conduct the gnome vs kde 
wars from.  This is after all, linux, and something like NM should be 
independent of the users gui choice.  It should be able to work from 
before an init 3 login even.

A further squawk John, I'm on many mailing lists, but why am I getting 
private replies that really should be going back to the mailing list for 
everyones use?  I just added the list back onto this message.

Generally, I can click on reply rather than reply all, and get the 
mailing list, but on this list, a simple reply goes to the poster only.  
That really should be addressed so that it takes a reply all to included 
double bombing the posters inbox.  Of course this is thunderbird, and 
its flakey enough it could be a t-bird problem.

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Cheers, Gene