Re: [Utopia] NetworkManager 0.3.1

I also spotted the problem with the webpage mentioning Gentoo, just
forgot to send an e-mail about it. While there is not currently an
ebuild in portage for it, I have an ebuild for it, and dbus-cvs(which is
required), available in my overlay at

As for udev running the init scripts, that I have not seen. I do not yet
use NM full time, and forget if the gentoo init script does it, but
ideally it will 'provide net', and the rest of the net.X scripts should
be removed from the run time. Currently, this is not a nice as we'd
like, since 'provide net' implies an active connection, which NM does
not gurantee. This will require closer integration with the Gentoo init
system, and is probably not yet possible in it's current state.

As for things running smoothly, I'm going to presume you are using this
on a laptop, and therefore not running too many network dependant
scripts. If you are, they are propably not server based, unless for
local testing(which would bind on lo anyways), so you should not have a

If you find any services that fail to start after NM because of a lack
of a network, let us know.

When a device is plugged in, HAL will recognize it, and send the
appropriate dbus signals, which NM picks up, so the device is then added
to NM's list.

Also, please note that for the Gentoo backend, only dhcp device will
work. If you use a static address for a card, consider setting it to use
dhcp for now. Hopefully the code for static support will be working

Finally, the ebuild builds from Gnome anoncvs, which is delayed up to a
day behind developper cvs, sp the 0.3.1 tag is probably not yet
available. In the interim, I may try to grab tarballs, and use non-cvs


On Tue, 2004-10-19 at 17:24 -0400, Daniel Gryniewicz wrote:
> On Tue, 2004-10-19 at 16:29 -0400, Jonathan Blandford wrote:
> > NetworkManager 0.3.1 has been released.
> > 
> > ===========
> > 
> > Everything!
> > 
> > This is the first public release of NetworkManager.  It is still early
> > in the development stage but is usable.  There are versions for Debian,
> > Fedora, Gentoo and Slackware.  It should be easy to port it to any
> > desktop that runs HAL.
> > 
> This does not appear to be in Gentoo as of this time, dispite the web
> page claiming it is.  This makes it more difficult to try out, so I'll
> ask some questions first.
> On Gentoo, udev will run the start script when interface foo
> appears.  Does NetworkManager stop this?  How does NetworkManager deal
> with the network changing out from under it, because I
> plugged/enabled/modprobed my wireless card?  Should I tell Udev not to
> run those scripts, and not run them at startup?  What about startup
> scripts with net dependancies?
> In otherwords, how does this interact with the rest of my Gentoo system
> to keep the whole thing running smoothly?
> (Obviously, all these questions apply to Redhat, Debian, etc.)
> Daniel
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