Re: [Nautilus-list] Re: [Galeon-devel] native scrollbars (again)

[Vlad Harchev <hvv hippo ru>]

On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Jeff Waugh wrote:

 Hi, 

 Please don't make the Galeon less flexible by removing preferences. If these
preferences are of no use to you, it doesn't mean that they will be useless 
for everybody.
 The best thing is to create "most important settings" page to contain the
settings that are tweakable by most of the users, and burry all other settings
to the 'advanced settings' page or dialog window. Or don't do anything and
leave things as they are, spending the time on extending functionality.

 Same for Nautilus.

 Don't make unix apps as stupid as windows' ones.

 Best regards,
  -Vlad
 

> <quote who="Daniel Erat">
> 
> > There's been a lot of talk about Galeon having too many preferences, but
> > I haven't seen many examples of specific prefs that should be removed.
> 
> I think you just made one of those Titanic "show me the money" boo-boos...
> 
> ;)
> 
> I'll provide a list of what I consider to be superfluous preferences; and I
> offer them as a happy user of Galeon. I hope you can look into these and
> turn Galeon into the most usable browser for GNOME, as well as the hippest.
> 
> > The Tab Colors colorpickers were mentioned, but what should the defaults
> > or alternate color-choosing behavior be?  (Remember, the text has to be at
> > least readable, and ideally not ugly, when used in conjunction with every
> > GTK theme that someone may be using.)
> 
> Then base them on the GTK+ colours. You could even use the Nautilus icon
> label magic colour code to do it - it won't have the same issues that
> Nautilus has on the desktop because they'll be sitting on a single colour.
> 
> And now, the list (I'll ignore the abundant use of menus and menu items in
> this list, and focus on the prefs box - something should be done about the
> menus as well; they look like KDE menus):
> 
>   * On Startup / On New Page -> agree on something sane for both
> 
>   * When Adding Bookmarks -> just use the page title, the user doesn't want
>     to be harassed every time they open a tab, and titles are well
>     understood
> 
>   * Show Folder Actions -> just put it somewhere sane, the bottom is good
>     (this is menu craziness, you can do all of these things far more easily
>     in the editor)
> 
>   * AutoBookmarks -> unless this has serious performance issues, just do it
>     automagically for a good number; 15 is the default, may as well use that
> 
>   * Smart Bookmarks -> You can fit the entries to the toolbar area, and
>     again, unless there are serious performance concerns, history should be
>     automagic. Extra buttons and clearing? Choose something sane!
> 
>   * History -> what's a 'whole' or 'simplified' URL? Do I care? Just make it
>     work for me. Shouldn't autocompletion happen automagically?
> 
>   * Remember zoom settings -> with a perky zoom box, this shouldn't be an
>     issue.
> 
>   * Tabbed Browsing -> most of these are crack, and should just behave in an
>     expected way for 'interactive tabs'
> 
>   * Tab names -> crack, just make it work, I don't have to worry about any
>     of these prefs at all
> 
>   * Tab colours -> as mentioned above, you can tailor these to the GTK+
>     theme programatically.
> 
>   * Window Title -> just make it make sense (%s - Galeon is a recognised
>     standard ala netscape, etc. people are familiar with it)
> 
>   * Fullscreen / Default layout -> shouldn't these just be interactive,
>     rather than in the prefs box?
> 
>   * Toolbar customisation should probably stay (who cares about customising
>     their spinner, unless they're mad-crazy type A or don't have anything
>     better to do?)
> 
>   * Context menus / history popup -> just do this as well as the history
>     toolbar buttons
> 
>   * Mouse buttons -> should seriously do sane things whoever's browser i'm
>     using (paste url (feature!) / context menu)
> 
>   * mouse wheel -> i've never worked out why lots of browsers think i care
>     enough to change these settings (Just Make It Work! JMIW!)
> 
>   * Downloading / Programs / MIME Types -> these seem ok, i guess, but some
>     could just be determined from the gnome environment, etc.
> 
>   * Fonts / colours -> a browser preference mainstay ;)
> 
>   * Languages -> my unispeak ass won't be complaining here ;)
> 
>   ( Advanced stuff )
> 
>   * Network -> usual stuff for people on odd networks
> 
>   * Filtering / Persistent data -> pretty worthy
> 
>   * Crash recovery -> couldn't this just be asked at startup?
> 
> - Jeff