Re: [Nautilus-list] Mozilla component

On 13 Jun 2001 14:41:20 +0200, Remco de Jong wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm still working on the context menu (bug #3044) patch (I haven't got
> lots of time, so progress is slow), however there are some things I
> wanted to discuss.
> - Roadmap?
> I recently read something about minimizing functionality of the mozilla
> component. I heavily dislike that plan, as you may have guessed :) I
> missed the rest of the discussions, so what was the conclusion?
> Minimizing the mozilla component would not speed up nautilus as a whole,
> so I don't see the reason anyway.
> - Menu contents
> For now, I have (only a few already work, the rest is just a menu item
> atm):
> New Window (all)
> separator
> Open Link (links only)
> Open Link In New Window (links only)
> Copy Link Location (links only)
> separator
> Save Image (only images)
> separator
> Zoom In (all)
> Zoom Out (all)
> Normal Size (all)

A more complete set would be:

Open Link                  (links only)
Open Link In New Window    (links only)
Open Link With           > (links only)
Open Image In New Window   (images only)
Open Image With          > (images only)
Open Frame In New Window   (pages with frames only)
Open Frame With          > (pages with frames only)
Open Page In New Window
Open Page With           >
? Show Link Properties     (links only)
? Show Image Properties    (images only)
? Show Frame Properties    (pages with frames only)
? Show Page Properties
? Save Link...             (links only)
? Save Image...            (images only)
? Save Frame...            (pages with frames only)
? Save Page...
Copy Link Location         (links only)
Copy Image Location        (images only)
Copy Frame Location        (pages with frames only)
Copy Page Location
Zoom In
Zoom Out
Normal Size

But that are _a_lot_ of menu items unfortunately. 24 items (without the
sepertators) if I counted correctly.

To reduce the number a bit the Properties menus could be removed because
they're perhaps not that important. That would bring the number down to
20 items.

Also the Save menu items could be removed and replaced by drag 'n' drop
/ cut 'n' paste. Only 17 menu items left.

If you'd then right click on a page without frames you would only get 6
menu items. A page with frames would get you 10 menu items.

If you'd also disable the page/frame/zoom menu items when right clicking
on an image and/or link, there would be 4 menu items for images, 8 if
they are links also. For plain links there would also be 4 menu items.

> The thing that's missing is the "Open With" submenu. By the way, if open
> with is implemented, things will be inconsistent, due to bug #7908
> (clicking a link always opens it in the mozilla widget). There is only
> one sollution to this problem, always let nautilus decide what to do
> instead of loading it in mozilla. This will have a negative impact on
> speed but after testing it did not seem like a big difference to me. I
> have a fast athlon though, so it would be nice if someone with a pentium
> 100 agrees with this.

Even less menu items :-).

> - Downloading
> Should GTM be used (bug #3189) or should it be done within nautilus?
> Will it download to the same dir always, or should it ask for a location
> + filename to save to (a file manager that pops up a file selector,
> dunno but it sounds a bit funny. IE does it this way however). My
> personal choice is a static dir, and no GTM. Any suggestions?

I'd suggest letting the user choose, if you're at and want to
download several themes then you'll probably want those in a different
directory than the MP3s you downloaded five minutes ago.

Another approach would be to let downloading happen via drag 'n' drop
and cut 'n' paste. I believe Konqueror allows for this approach.

What I really liked about BeOS was that it kept meta-data for files you
downloaded. The icon in the file manager showed how much was downloaded
already, also you could terminate/resume downloads from the file
manager. Some day... :-).

> If someone knows more that aren't already in bugzilla, please reply.
> - Zooming in / out buttons in the toolbar like the list / icon view
> have.
> - Bookmarks sidebar like mozilla has. This has nothing to do with the
> mozilla component ofcourse, but I think it would be nice anyway :)

Out of curiosity: are there any plans to have Galeon / Nautilus share

> Remco de Jong

Jonas De Vuuyst

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