Re: [Muine] Groups and the main UI

[Jorn Baayen <jorn nl linux org>]

Hrm.. I don't see the advantage of this:
- Clicking either "Add song" or "Add album" is one click less than
clicking "Add music" and then clicking the relevant tab.
- We will not have iradio support in muine so that item isn't relevant..

But perhaps you can convince me this has any added value apart from
saving space .. 

However, groups. You just gave me a good idea there. The most trivial of
all ideas, actually, but I just got too stuck with my group selector
idea.
That is just having the user add multiple groups to the playlist and
then just pressing "shuffle" which reorders the playlist. Easy.

About shuffle.. I've never been able to use normal shuffle myself. It
just shuffles *all* of my music, and I listen to a lot of different
styles. If I am in a dark mood and I basically just want to hear metal,
I don't want my Pat Metheny jazz to end up mixed with that .. 

I love having the player decide what to play. But I do want to be able
to give it some sort of direction .. 

So, I think.. with that new idea.. the new challenge is to fit in
"shuffle" and "add group" buttons. We might very well end up with the
space saving idea here, but for now.. I am not convinced that has any
other value ..


Jorn


On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 23:14, enntee wrote:
> Well, I have sort of a radical idea for taking care of groups and albums. I hope
> no one takes offense to this, I love the current UI and everything, this is
> just an idea I had... take it for what it's worth ;)
> 
> Instead of the "Add Songs" and "Add Albums" buttons in the main UI, there would
> just be an "Add Music" button. Clicking on this button would launch a new
> window, just as it does now. However, in this new window you have 3 different
> shortcuts on the right (a la evolution's shortcut bar, for example), those
> shortcuts being "Songs", "Albums", and "Groups," probably with "Songs" being
> selected by default (or whatever the user selected last, maybe).
> 
> That way, you can pretty much access whatever you need to, and there's plenty of
> room to add more stuff later on (internet radio, for example). Of course, it
> doesn't have to be an outlook sidebar, maybe there's some better way of
> selecting between "Groups," "Albums," and "Songs." As for a shuffle mode, I
> don't see any dilemna in just adding checkboxes to the bottom. *Shrug*

> 
> If this sounds at all interesting (or if I've completely failed to visualize),
> I'd be happy to do a mockup of what I'm talking about. 
> 
> That's my suggestion tho, hope it's helpful somehow ;)
> 
> Cheers
> 
> --------------------- 
> enntee localgod net 
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> 
> "Good... bad... I'm the guy with the gun." -Ash, Army of Darkness
> 
> 
> Quoting Jorn Baayen <jorn nl linux org>:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Muine is currently missing random playback & grouping features. I had
> > the following idea to solve this:
> > 
> > We allow the user to group music together. Manually, and we could also
> > automatically generate groups based on genre information (or create
> > groups for "orphan" songs (ie no album), "never played", etc). We then
> > allow the user to select multiple groups to be played back from. Muine
> > will then make sure that there are always, say, 10 songs left to be
> > played in the playlist (so that the user can see what is played next,
> > and remove any songs he/she isn't feeling like hearing right now). These
> > songs will be randomly chosen from the selected groups. 
> > 
> > We can integrate some nifty statistics here, to make the random song
> > picking code favour songs that are played more manually, and favour
> > songs that are skipped or whatever less.
> > 
> > There is one other idea regarding random playback that I find very
> > interesting, but that does not directly fit into this model: Playing
> > random albums, like the iPod apparently does. 
> > 
> > The other problem is how to integrate this into the main UI. I did some
> > glading, but I am not happy with the result - it looks messy:
> > http://nl.linux.org/~jorn/Muine/groups.png
> > 
> > Any help and discussion on this subject would be most welcome!
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Jorn
> > 
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