Re: Caroline Henrikson's foundation membership

[Andrea Veri <av gnome org>]

Sri,

please have Caroline submit another application so we can go ahead and
process it.

Thanks!

2018-09-26 20:29 GMT+02:00 Pascal Terjan via membership-committee
<membership-committee gnome org>:
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 at 19:08, Sriram Ramkrishna <sri ramkrishna me> wrote:
> > Heya Tobias!
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 1:52 AM Tobias Mueller <tobiasmue gnome org> wrote:
> > > Hi Sri,
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2018-09-21 at 15:26 -0600, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
> > > > I understand that Caroline's application for GNOME Foundation
> > > > membership was rejected?  Could we revisit this decision?
> > > Sure. Given that we are humans, we make mistakes. The process currently
> > > requires the applicant to appeal.  Alternatively, the Board is free to
> > > make whatever decision it likes.  Another common procedure is to re-
> > > apply.
> >
> > That's great to hear!
> >
> > > > I think everyone on this list can vouch for Caroline's application.
> > > > She has produced all the illustrations and graphics for GUADEC 2018
> > > > and Libre Application Summit and has spent long hours working on the
> > > > designs for both these conferences.  She also designed stickers as
> > > > well.
> > > The application didn't make that as clear as it could have done, I
> > > guess.  Generally, we require the applicant to provide the evidence of
> > > "non-trivial" contributions rather than hinting at it and us chasing it
> > > down ourselves.
> > > Also, we tend to wait for the applicant to be somewhat stable in their
> > > contributions.  In this case, it was stated that the contribution
> > > started with "helping out with the engagement team for a little over a
> > > month".  That itself seemed like an exaggeration to me after I've
> > > searched the mailing list archives.
> >
> > So, Caroline's contributions are non-trivial, in her 3 month stint she
> > has: (others can correct me)
> > * Designed the GUADEC  t-shirt
> > * Designed GUADEC stickers (Kat please correct if i'm wrong)
> > * LAS website, colors
> > * LAS branding
> > * Designed the banners for LAS
> > * Man the registration booth for LAS for two days
> > * Shared responsibility in recording all the LAS talks
> > * Spent her own money to come to LAS (taken into account all the work
> > she has put into LAS)
> > * vigorously participated in all LAS discussion and engagement discussions
> > * Provided advice on design as needed.
> >
> > Her contributions have been consistent and she cotinues to participate
> > even after LAS.  Herr contributions are highly impactful in the event
> > space.  She continues to be involved and we are quite grateful.
> >
> > Also be aware that her partner, Britt applied at the same time and his
> > was approved.  Britt is the outgoing one so... :-)
> >
> > > > I'm quite puzzled as to why her application was rejected considering
> > > > the all the work she has produced.  I'd love to understand why this
> > > > happened and what the membership committee's concerns were for her
> > > > application that lead to her rejection.  In general, the membership
> > > > team has been quite generous in accepting memberships in the past and
> > > > arguably Caroline's candidacy is very strong in our estimation.
> > > The way applications are processed is written in the wiki. Whether this
> > > is generous is left up to interpretation.  And whether it should be
> > > generous would need to be discussed.
> >
> > Fair enough.  It's been my experience that we've been generous but
> > that could be baesd on who is processing the application.
> >
> > I think it comes down to the fact that she didn't sell herself as well
> > as she coudl be.  But she was encouraged to apply by all of us.  Let
> > me know what I can do going forward.
>
> My impression from reading the tickets is:
> - Caroline gave a list which seemed exhaustive of contributions over a
> small period of time and this didn't show doesn't that she is still
> involved
> - Britt was very bad at selling their work and didn't detail any of
> the listed contributions so the given references were asked about it
> and supported the application which was then approved
> So not selling your work well can actually be better :)
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Cheers,

Andrea

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