Re: Mc Digest, Vol 67, Issue 7



Chris,

Not sure about the other stuff but I think I know what you want for
the PWD thing.
'mc' has a '-P', or '--printwd', option that will save mc's current
working directory to a file.
My 'mc' installed a 'mc-wrapper.sh' script in '/usr/local/libexec/mc'
that uses that option and does what I think you're looking for.
In the same directory there should be a 'mc.sh'  script that you can
source to set up an alias for the 'mc' command.

L'chei-im,
Lee

Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:45:02 +0300
From: chris glur <crglur gmail com>
To: mc gnome org
Subject: Re: Mc Digest, Vol 67, Issue 6
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My oberon [the good OS] collaborator, friend sent the CD from the other
Âside of the world. So It's home made.

OK, if this CD is home-made, then how come this has to do
with Debian? It might be based on Debian, but this mysterious
collaborator might have introduced changes, which had some
subtile side-effects, e.g. like breaking bundled mc package.

Yes it might depend on the 'ghost in the box' too, but I take a
probibalistic approach:
= I've installed mc on Slak3, RH6.2; Slak?; Mandrake9; FC1, mulinux...
 all with no problems.
= I've got both Etch & Lenny CD's from the "mysterious collaborator"
 and both indicate an elaborated 'checking for uncorrupted files' procedure
 before/during installation.
= The Debian documentation ACTIVELY encourages user duplication of their CDs.
= I found myself uncomfortable with Debian documentation: the subtle, difficult
Âto explain feeling of a socialist english school teacher is summarised in the
Â'aptitude' user interface.
Compare aptitude, which you'd only use to install/update; with mc which you've
used a million times since DOS/nc, and note that aptitude has screens of menus.
Like the unduly controlling school-teacher, aptitude-developers take themselves
too serious, in expecting you to learn the screens of menu instuctions which
has no other value except for THEIR seldom used product.

What's the problem with downloading the original Debian CD and trying
whether it works or not before putting the blame on Debian?

You don't want/need to know my circumstamces which differ from what
you are familiar with. And I suspect that if I wanted to "get married
to Debian" by investing resources to familiarise myself with their
different way of doing it, all would work. I DO suspect that their emphasis
on security is good for beginners. ÂPersonally I always run as root. Life is
just too short. Since the only lasting asset is your knowledge, one should
not get married to a product. mc's secret was that it leaveraged the
universally appicable design principles of Norton's commander.

I don't think it makes any sense for us to try to support you to get
some ancient version of the software that you've got from some broken
home-made CD (origins unknown) to work.

Are you the chairman/controller of "us"?
Is this mail-list different from others which are based on collaboration?
If you want to SHOW that you can SUPPORT then tell how would I set my
'bash mini-mc' so that when it quits, it doesn't pwd back to the dir from
where it ran. ÂActually I believe mc does this too, and it's a fact of the
kernel. So you need a higher/more-global 'environment' where pwd can be
stored. ÂIt seems that gpm uses a very 'Hi' environment, since it even
operates across chroot/s.

I guess the DebLenny-2009 CD has the newest version of mc that I'll ever use
in my life. ÂIn principle, I prefer to wait for a few years untill a product
has prove itself, like mc did.

== TIA.



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