(fwd) ncurses vs slang

["Andrew V. Samoilov" <kai cmail ru>]

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Hi all,

I was just wondering if there was any advantage to using slang over
ncurses. 

burton


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On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Burton Samograd wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I was just wondering if there was any advantage to using slang over
> ncurses.

no one's pointed out any (none that count)

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* Burton Samograd <kruhft kruhft dyndns org> [2002-09-19 03:07]:
> I was just wondering if there was any
> advantage to using slang over ncurses.

"slang" is shorter than "ncurses" -
but you have to add "--with-slang"
when configuring mutt for compilation.
so....

Sven  [well, he asked, right?]

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On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Sven Guckes wrote:

> * Burton Samograd <kruhft kruhft dyndns org> [2002-09-19 03:07]:
> > I was just wondering if there was any
> > advantage to using slang over ncurses.
>
> "slang" is shorter than "ncurses" -
   ncurses

hmm (yes - but the library is bigger, last time I looked)

> but you have to add "--with-slang"
> when configuring mutt for compilation.
> so....
>
> Sven  [well, he asked, right?]
>

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Sven Guckes <guckes math fu-berlin de> wrote:
> * Burton Samograd <kruhft kruhft dyndns org> [2002-09-19 03:07]:
>> I was just wondering if there was any
>> advantage to using slang over ncurses.
> 
> "slang" is shorter than "ncurses" - but you have to add
> "--with-slang" when configuring mutt for compilation. so....

You have been getting worse and worse lately, Sven -- are you perhaps
getting [too] old or something...? :-)

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Hello Burton,

 On Wednesday, September 18, 2002 at 8:07:24 PM -0700, Burton Samograd wrote:

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    Better use the list's prefered address: mutt-dev mutt org


> I was just wondering if there was any advantage to using slang over
> ncurses.

    I haven't precise timings, but I once noticed Slang was generally
a little bit faster at redraws, scrolling, and such things.


Bye!	Alain.

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On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 08:54:40PM +0200, Alain Bench wrote:
> Hello Burton,
> 
>  On Wednesday, September 18, 2002 at 8:07:24 PM -0700, Burton Samograd wrote:
> 
> > To: mutt-dev gbnet net
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>     Better use the list's prefered address: mutt-dev mutt org
> 
> 
> > I was just wondering if there was any advantage to using slang over
> > ncurses.
> 
>     I haven't precise timings, but I once noticed Slang was generally
> a little bit faster at redraws, scrolling, and such things.

most of that was because slang doesn't pay attention to the padding specified
in the vt100 entry (the numbers in <>):

#	Reconstructed via infocmp from file: /usr/local/ncurses/lib/terminfo/v/vt100
vt100|vt100-am|dec vt100 (w/advanced video), 
	am, msgr, xenl, xon, 
	cols#80, it#8, lines#24, vt#3, 
	acsc=``aaffggjjkkllmmnnooppqqrrssttuuvvwwxxyyzz{{||}}~~, 
	bel=^G, blink=\E[5m$<2>, bold=\E[1m$<2>, 
	clear=\E[H\E[J$<50>, cr=^M, csr=\E[%i%p1%d;%p2%dr, 
	cub=\E[%p1%dD, cub1=^H, cud=\E[%p1%dB, cud1=^J, 
	cuf=\E[%p1%dC, cuf1=\E[C$<2>, 
	cup=\E[%i%p1%d;%p2%dH$<5>, cuu=\E[%p1%dA, 
	cuu1=\E[A$<2>, ed=\E[J$<50>, el=\E[K$<3>, el1=\E[1K$<3>, 
	enacs=\E(B\E)0, home=\E[H, ht=^I, hts=\EH, ind=^J, ka1=\EOq, 
	ka3=\EOs, kb2=\EOr, kbs=^H, kc1=\EOp, kc3=\EOn, kcub1=\EOD, 
	kcud1=\EOB, kcuf1=\EOC, kcuu1=\EOA, kent=\EOM, kf0=\EOy, 
	kf1=\EOP, kf10=\EOx, kf2=\EOQ, kf3=\EOR, kf4=\EOS, kf5=\EOt, 
	kf6=\EOu, kf7=\EOv, kf8=\EOl, kf9=\EOw, rc=\E8, 
	rev=\E[7m$<2>, ri=\EM$<5>, rmacs=^O, rmam=\E[?7l, 
	rmkx=\E[?1l\E>, rmso=\E[m$<2>, rmul=\E[m$<2>, 
	rs2=\E>\E[?3l\E[?4l\E[?5l\E[?7h\E[?8h, sc=\E7, 
	sgr=\E[0%?%p1%p6%|%t;1%;%?%p2%t;4%;%?%p1%p3%|%t;7%;%?%p4%t;5%;m%?%p9%t\016%e\017%;$<2>, 
	sgr0=\E[m\017$<2>, smacs=^N, smam=\E[?7h, smkx=\E[?1h\E=, 
	smso=\E[7m$<2>, smul=\E[4m$<2>, tbc=\E[3g, 

See NCURSES_NO_PADDING in the ncurses manpage...

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