Re: "Deployments" page sends the wrong message

["Karen Sandler" <karen gnome org>]

On Tue, February 7, 2012 3:30 pm, Christy Eller wrote:
> Hi-
>
> I have been gathering some more info about recent deployments. Thanks to
> Marina, I have added several more current deployments to our Deployments
> wiki page, https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/GnomeDeployments,
> including a one using GNOME 3.0.2.

Thanks for working on this, it's great to have some current information there

> My suggestion is that we split off the older deployments to another page,
> called GNOME Deployments 2000-2008. I would prefer to have that info
> available, but I agree with Joanie that seeing a list of really old
> deployments could send a negative message. I would rename the current page
> to Current Gnome Deployments, and would refer to the older deployments
> page
> there. I chose those dates, because I want to make sure that the current
> page has enough data not to look too sparse.

That sound really great to me. I agree with you and Joanie that it doesn't
look good to have such old information on that main deployments page.

I'm trying to track down info on another couple of deployments I know of too.

karen

> I hope to be able to report on more, perhaps get updates on the ones that
> we have, and repair or retire the broken links. I also wonder if we should
> try to highlight this information in a more public place. If you have
> anything to add, it would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Christy
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey all.
>>
>> I just took a look at our Deployments page [1] in some detail. Here's
>> what I found regarding the linked reports [2] of deployments:
>>
>> Summary:
>>      * 32 total
>>      * 12 broken (37.5%)
>>      * 18 >= 5 years old (56.25%)
>>      * Of the remaining 2 (6.25%) from the past two years:
>>              * 1 uses GNOME 2.28
>>              * 1 used GNOME 2.30
>>      * 0% use GNOME 3.2
>>      * 0% use GNOME 3.0
>>      * 0% use GNOME 2.32
>>
>> Details:
>>      * Austria: 2005
>>      * Belgium: 2006, 2003, (broken)
>>      * Germany: 2005
>>      * Ireland: (broken), 2004
>>      * Italy: 2005
>>      * Macedonia: 2005
>>      * Spain: 2003, 2005, 2010 (but GNOME 2.28)
>>      * United Kingdom: (broken), (broken), (broken)
>>      * South America: 2003, (broken), 2004, 2005, (broken), (broken)
>>      * Australia: (broken; references GNOME 2.8)
>>      * China: 2005, (broken), 2003, (broken)
>>      * India: 2011 (but GNOME 2.30)
>>      * USA: 2002, (and a reference to 2005)
>>      * Canada: 2005
>>      * Other Resources: 2004, (broken)
>>
>> My Opinions:
>>      * At the best, what this page communicates to the outside world
>>        (possibly including institutions considering whether or not to
>>        deploy GNOME) is that we have some serious cruft removal to do
>>        with respect to our marketing content.
>>      * At the worst, it suggests that modern/current deployments do not
>>        see GNOME 3.x as a viable option.
>>      * Are either of these messages something we wish to convey? I
>>        would argue no.
>>      * Were it me, I would investigate the present status of all of the
>>        existing deployments, remove those which are no longer valid,
>>        solicit new reports from those which are valid, investigate
>>        additional/"missing" deployments, and highlight those which are
>>        based on GNOME 3. And if this cannot be done, I'd remove the
>>        page entirely from our site because I do not think it helps our
>>        cause.
>>      * (It won't be me because I am busy contributing to the effort to
>>        ensure that we are accessible to users who are blind. ;) )
>>
>> For what it's worth....
>>
>> Take care.
>> --joanie
>>
>> [1] https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/GnomeDeployments
>> [2] As opposed to generic/institute sites
>>
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