On 6/25/08, Laszlo Pandy <
laszlok2 gmail com> wrote:
> Tom Halligan wrote:
>> ....
>>
>> Maybe the easiest solution would be to use a small, horizontal VUWidget
>> rather than the current volume slider? Although this doesn't solve the
>> space issue - it would at least be more intuitive as a volume control,
>> and also doubles up as a level monitor. The mute functionality could be
>> incorporated into this, so then we'd just have three buttons to deal with.
>>
>
> See this bug from a *really long* time ago:
>
https://bugs.launchpad.net/jokosher/+bug/70351
>
> And the screenshot accompanying it:
>
http://www.kryogenix.org/random/jokosher-vumeter.gif
>
>
>> Another option, although a lot more work than the above, would be to
>> implement a rotating 'dial' widget (like those used in FruityLoops, for
>> example). This would look out of place with Jokosher, though - and I
>> don't think many people honestly like these things anyway, so probably
>> best to avoid it.
>>
>
> This is explicitly prohibited by the Jokosher way, as originally defined
> by Jono when he wrote about the stupidity and unusability of audio
> editors which try to be familiar by copying the mixer desk controls.
> They fail miserably because mixing desks were not meant for mouse
> manipulation.
>
> The prime example of this is the rotating dial because it is really easy
> to control with your fingers when you have grasp and tactile feedback,
> but it is absolutely impossible to use when a mouse pointer.
>
>> I do think a sliding control is still the best option, but I guess to
>> some, the horizontal slider would remind them of a pan control. However,
>> the slider's 'groove' (Or whatever you want to call it) does become
>> shaded to the left of the slider handle, which does suggest some kind of
>> 'increase' as we move towards the right, rather than just a left vs
>> right balance. Perhaps if we could make it more obvious that it was a
>> volume control somehow - although I don't think the confusion between
>> volume and pan would be anything serious, even for people used to such a
>> thing. A fixed, vertical slider could be the easiest way around the
>> space issue, although this obviously means something else would have to
>> be compromised.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> From: "Jeff Ratliff" <
jefrat gmail com <mailto:
jefrat gmail com>>
>> To:
jokosher-devel-list gnome org
>> <mailto:
jokosher-devel-list gnome org>
>> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:33:07 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] InstrumentViewer volume slider
>> patch (SVN Rev. 1519)
>> Sorry, don't think I sent this to the list:
>>
>> The volume slider in this position makes the think of a pan control,
>> not a volume control. This comes from my experience with physical
>> sound boards though, and a novice may not have this problem.
>>
>> You could do a volume icon that pops up a volume slider, a la
>> rhythmbox and others. If you were really clever, you could find a way
>> to integrate it with the mute button and take up no additional space.
>> This is less discoverable though, and would really rely on a good
>> descriptive icon, or a little mini popup arrow thingy (excuse my
>> advanced technical jargon). :)
>>
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