Re: [jokosher-devel] Autopackage of Jokosher

[Laszlo Pandy <laszlok2 gmail com>]

Taj Morton wrote:
> Hey Guys,
> Nice work on Jokosher 0.2, it looks great!
>
> I'm a dev from the Autopackage team and am interested in making an
> Autopackage of Jokosher.

Thanks a lot. We think autopackage is pretty awesome too!

> Yes, I know it uses an unreleased gstreamer,
> but I might as well take a crack at it for "when the time comes."

Actually the version of Gstreamer we need was released a few weeks ago. 
It is now packaged and available in Ubuntu Feisty and Arch Linux.

> I took a look at the Download 0.1 page which has a list of deps.
> Awesome, thanks! What I really need is a list of the /versions/
> required. E.g., what version of python-alsaaudio, dbus, dbus-python,
> etc is required.

The deps for 0.1 are different from those for 0.2. We no longer require 
python-alsaaudio. Here is the full list for 0.2:

Python            2.4
python-cairo      1.2.0
python-dbus       0.71
python-xml        0.8.4
python-glade2     2.x.x
python-gtk2       2.x.x
python-gst        0.10.6
python-setuptools 0.6
python-gnome2     2.x.x

Gstreamer plugins packages:
gnonlin          0.10.6
gst-plugins-base 0.10.11
gst-plugins-good 0.10.5
gst-gnomevfs     0.10.x

And of course Gstreamer 0.10.11

Jokosher will probably work with any greater version, especially 
compatible versions like Python 2.5. However all the versions listed 
above are the ones that I have personally tested Jokosher with.

Also note that for Gstreamer packages, the versions listed are the 
absolute minimum and the higher the version number the better. If a new 
Gstreamer gets released, the package should use it as soon as possible.

> I'm thinking that instead of a bunch of little packages for
> python-alsaaudio, python-dbus, python-cairo, and python-glade2, it'd
> be better to include them all in the Jokosher autopackage (along with
> python). This is because Python has an unstable ABI which changes
> based on how Python is compiled. Translation: A binding that's
> compiled on Fedora Core won't work on a Mandriva system and vice
> versa. See http://plan99.net/autopackage/Linux_Problems#python and
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=173990 for
> details.

Does this include python-gst? I don't know much about how ABI works, but 
if you ship a custom python-gst would it still work with the system's 
version of gstreamer? Also, will you include gstreamer in the 
autopackage since most distros don't have the version we need packaged yet?

> So, if someone could come up with a list of what versions of what is
> required, that'd be great! Also, comments are welcome!

The last thing I wanted to comment on is the difficulty with Suse. It is 
currently the only distro we know of that doesn't work with our 
distutils-based install script. This is because Suse doesn't have 
python-gst and it doesn't come in any of the default repositories as far 
 as I can tell. Am I right that the magic of Autopackage will make this 
problem disappear and bless Suse with the awesomeness of Jokosher?

Thanks a lot,
Laszlo