[HIG] Re: Hig digest, Vol 1 #150 - 1 msg

I tend to think that the button should stay as near as possible to the reload
or load button as possible in a design. My opinion is that your ability to
remember particular operations is severaly bounded by the context in which
the object appears. I know this is a little off the track, but as an example
you could use the McKoon and Ratcliff arguement that learning a word and its
meaning is highly dependent upon word-combinations, rather than just the 
ability to focus on the form of the word. Applying this to interface design
I would say that placing a functional element within a context so that you
have meta components or element-combinations will lead to greater usability
through decreased processing requirements - ie learn easier & search/think less

However, I guess these days it also has as much to do with industry standard
and whether or not we can forget about the 2 years of solid learning on a 
default model - ie MS Word versus Star Office (notice how OpenOffice is 
a lot more like Windows and has dropped several of the nice HCI elements)

I'd stay stick to the guns, there are more applications under Gnome than
just Mozilla and other browsers.


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> Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 13:23:36 +0100
> From: Calum Benson <calum benson sun com>
> Organization: Sun Microsystems Ireland - Desktop Engineering
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> Subject: [HIG] Re: New toolbar button ordering
> Okeydoke, how strongly do we feel about this?  Is it worth sticking to
> our HIG guns and saying Stop really does have to come before Reload on
> the Nautilus/Galeon toolbar, or should we just change the HIG back to
> match what Galeon, Mozilla and Konqueror currently do...?
> Cheeri,
> Calum.
> Evandro Fernandes Giovanini wrote:
> > > Any comments Matthew (since it was you who originally pointed out that
> > > Stop ought to be as near Back, Forward and Reload as possible)... what
> > > button ordering is Mozilla likely to be going forward with?  (If you'll
> > > pardon the pun...)
> >> 
> > Matthew hasn't commented on this yet, but I don't think Mozilla is going
> > to change at this point. It has Back, Forward, Reload and Stop buttons,
> > in that order.
> >
> > Do you agree to change the order to Back, Forward, Reload and Stop (as
> > used by Nautilus 1.x, Galeon, Mozilla and Konqueror)?
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