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>    1. Re:  Jam session at GUADEC2008 - Volunteer Needed (Enver ALTIN)
>    2. Re:  GUADEC 2008 Registrations are Open (J?rg Barfurth)
>    3. Re:  GUADEC 2008 Registrations are Open (Baris Cicek)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:36:33 +0300
> From: Enver ALTIN <ealtin gmail com>
> Subject: Re: [guadec-list] Jam session at GUADEC2008 - Volunteer
> 	Needed
> To: Lucas Rocha <lucasr gnome org>
> Cc: guadec-list <guadec-list gnome org>
> Message-ID: <4848F711 7030905 gmail com>
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> Hey Lucas,
> 
> I'll see what I can find.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Lucas Rocha wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > It seems there's a possibility to have a jam session this year.
> > Woohoo! Here's the list of of equipments that are needed for the jam
> > session:
> > 
> > http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMusicianIndex/Guadec2008Concert
> > 
> > We need someone from Istambul to contact and get quotes from a local
> > sound equipment/instruments rental company. Any volunteers?
> > 
> > Ideally, we should have all equipments but this is not a hard
> > requirement. If we have only an acoustic guitar with a mic and a
> > speaker, it would be good enough for a simple jam.
> > 
> > Cheers!
> > 
> > --lucasr
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:19:51 +0200
> From: J?rg Barfurth <Joerg Barfurth Sun COM>
> Subject: Re: [guadec-list] GUADEC 2008 Registrations are Open
> To: Baris Cicek <baris teamforce name tr>
> Cc: guadec-list <guadec-list gnome org>
> Message-ID: <48490137 7020501 sun com>
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> Baris Cicek schrieb:
> > GUADEC 2008 Registrations are Open!
> > 
> > Please visit: https://guadec.expectnation.com/guadec08/public/register
> > in order to register for GUADEC 2008. 
> > 
> 
> Can you please clarify the 'Further details' option on the 'Speaker 
> registration' page?
> 
> I can't parse the text there, so I can't really proceed, because I don't 
> know to what I will be agreeing or disagreeing to by doing so. It 
> currently says:
> 
> > Do you allow using your talk as disclaimer
> 
> Sounds like a question, but appears to be meant as heading. I certainly 
> don't think my talk will be suitable to be used as disclaimer for anything.
> 
> > Choosing yes in this field means that your talk will can be used by GNOME
> Foundation and etc.
> 
> I think I can guess what this is supposed to mean, but not only is this 
> ungrammatical, but I think it is far too unspecific:
> 
> - It is not entirely clear what 'my talk' is here. Does it mean audio or 
> video recordings of the actual presentation? Slides or scripts I may 
> have? Content and ideas? All of them?
> 
> - I have no idea what "and etc." is meant to cover. So who I would allow 
> to use my talk?
> 
> - I doesn't say how the talk would be used by those people or 
> organizations.  Do I give a 'for all uses, no restrictions or rules'
> license to "my talk"?
> 
> As an employed developer, I don't think I can agree to a 'disclaimer' I 
> don't understand nor give away *all* rights to whatever 'my talk' 
> encompasses to unspecified recipients. Thus without more detail I think 
> I am forced to choose 'no'. But neither does the page explain what 
> legitimate and desirable uses I deny by this choice.
> 
> > Payments will be handled by PayPal this year as well. PayPal integration
> > with guadec.org will also be available, however currently you can
> > register and pay later. 
> > 
> 
> I want to use this option, because we want to use a group payment (and 
> fall under the 'sponsoring organization' rules). However colleagues 
> report that this option doesn't work for them. (I didn't get that far, 
> due to the issue above).
> 
> - J?rg
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 02:22:08 +0300
> From: Baris Cicek <baris teamforce name tr>
> Subject: Re: [guadec-list] GUADEC 2008 Registrations are Open
> To: J?rg Barfurth <Joerg Barfurth Sun COM>
> Cc: guadec-list <guadec-list gnome org>
> Message-ID: <1212794528 4393 2 camel localhost localdomain>
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> 
> Hi Jorg; 
> 
> Sorry about that, but where did you encounter these text? Are you
> speaker? There should be a speaker disclaimer survey and I presume that
> was a test stuff which should not be activated. 
> 
> Can you please send me a screenshot or more descriptive location of
> these text? 
> 
> Regards,
> Baris Cicek
> 
> On Fri, 2008-06-06 at 11:19 +0200, J?rg Barfurth wrote:
> > Baris Cicek schrieb:
> > > GUADEC 2008 Registrations are Open!
> > > 
> > > Please visit: https://guadec.expectnation.com/guadec08/public/register
> > > in order to register for GUADEC 2008. 
> > > 
> > 
> > Can you please clarify the 'Further details' option on the 'Speaker 
> > registration' page?
> > 
> > I can't parse the text there, so I can't really proceed, because I don't 
> > know to what I will be agreeing or disagreeing to by doing so. It 
> > currently says:
> > 
> > > Do you allow using your talk as disclaimer
> > 
> > Sounds like a question, but appears to be meant as heading. I certainly 
> > don't think my talk will be suitable to be used as disclaimer for anything.
> > 
> > > Choosing yes in this field means that your talk will can be used by GNOME
> Foundation and etc.
> > 
> > I think I can guess what this is supposed to mean, but not only is this 
> > ungrammatical, but I think it is far too unspecific:
> > 
> > - It is not entirely clear what 'my talk' is here. Does it mean audio or 
> > video recordings of the actual presentation? Slides or scripts I may 
> > have? Content and ideas? All of them?
> > 
> > - I have no idea what "and etc." is meant to cover. So who I would allow 
> > to use my talk?
> > 
> > - I doesn't say how the talk would be used by those people or 
> > organizations.  Do I give a 'for all uses, no restrictions or rules'
> > license to "my talk"?
> > 
> > As an employed developer, I don't think I can agree to a 'disclaimer' I 
> > don't understand nor give away *all* rights to whatever 'my talk' 
> > encompasses to unspecified recipients. Thus without more detail I think 
> > I am forced to choose 'no'. But neither does the page explain what 
> > legitimate and desirable uses I deny by this choice.
> > 
> > > Payments will be handled by PayPal this year as well. PayPal integration
> > > with guadec.org will also be available, however currently you can
> > > register and pay later. 
> > > 
> > 
> > I want to use this option, because we want to use a group payment (and 
> > fall under the 'sponsoring organization' rules). However colleagues 
> > report that this option doesn't work for them. (I didn't get that far, 
> > due to the issue above).
> > 
> > - J?rg
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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