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Re: [guadec-list] Foundation financial info

On 6/9/07, Sara Khalatbari <saracomput gmail com> wrote:

Hi again Diego

As far as I know the invitation letter to visit the UK can be from a person
or a company. I 'GUESS' that you would need to show bank statements/pay
cheques/etc in case you are invited by a person & these would not be
necessary in case you are invited by an organization.


No, sadly I have to proof the economic ways of the $whoever is
inviting me, no matter it's an organization or a person.



So I suggest that you email the embassy, tell them that you are going for a
conference and ask if they require such a  letter or just the invitation
letter would be enough.


Yeah I thought about that some weeks ago when I read about the
requisites, they kindly pointed me to their web site. Basically they
doesn't care.


In case you are sure you would need one, hopefully the gnome-uk will be able
to adjust you a letter soon. You can also try giving them a draft of the
letter you think would be enough.


I put a request for an invitation letter on guadec.org. One like the
PDF you attached is more than enough for the invitation part.
The financial statements are a separate thing.


It would also be very effective in the visa procedure if some one from
guadec committee in UK calls the embassy and talk to them about your case.


That's a great idea Sara, the phone number I have is one of those
"press 1 for info on..." phone centrals, no matter they say they take
calls from 2pm to 5pm, they never give another number or an option to
get a real person.
I'll try to get another number, I have the impression that they won't
give me a positive answer if I tell them about this.
However, I don't think calling anyway would be bad.

I'll let you know.


See you in GUADEC,
Sara


 On 6/8/07, Diego Escalante Urrelo <diegoe gnome org> wrote:
>
> Hey Thomas
>
> On 6/8/07, Thomas Wood <thos gnome org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Diego,
> >
> > Your sponsorship to GUADEC is being paid for by GUADEC-UK, rather than
> > the foundation. GUADEC-UK is oraganising Guadec 2007 on behalf of the
> > GNOME Foundation. We have separate accounts to make the logistics
> > easier and as such GUADEC-UK has not had a bank account for very long.
> >
> Hmmm, maybe we can show some kind of proof or receipt that shows that
> GUADEC-UK is a "local branch" of the Foundation?. I mean, just to give
> the existence of GUADEC-UK "support". A simple letter from the
> Foundation acknowledging the existence and purpose of GUADEC-UK would
> be fine I think.
>
> I think that if GUADEC-UK financial state has nice numbers (read: more
> than two pennies), there shouldn't be a problem.
>
> > I'm fairly sure this is going to make things even more difficult for
> > you, but perhaps you can suggest what we could arrange so that you are
> > able to get a visa quickly and efficiently?
> >
> I'll double-check that this doesn't make things more complicated. But
> I think it would only be needed to proof that GUADEC-UK is funded to
> some extent by the Foundation.
>
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 08:26:22 -0500
> > "Diego Escalante Urrelo" <diegoe gnome org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Rodrigo, Sara, Jaime!
> > >
> > > I'm sad to say it but, I think you have never invited a peruvian to go
> > > outside of his/her country :(. It's hell.
> > >
> > > But let's be rational. You can see (in spanish) requisites for visas
> > > for UK and Spain:
> > >
> > >
http://www.mae.es/Consulados/Lima/es/MenuPpal/Visados/Visado+de+Turismo/
> > >
http://www.britishembassy.gov.uk/servlet/Front?pagename=OpenMarket/Xcelerate/ShowPage&c=Page&cid=1136904295400
> > >
> > > Note that Spain doesn't say it clearly but you can take my word that
> > > it's a requisite.
> > > In the case of UK you can read:
> > >
> > > "Si es otra persona quien cubre los gastos debe proporcionarle, además
> > > de los estados de cuenta bancarios y boletas de pago de sueldo, una
> > > carta de responsabilidad por sus gastos..."
> > >
> > > Which for our English speaking friends basically means something like:
> > >
> > > "If someone else is taking care of your expenses he/she should provide
> > > bank account states, pay checks and a letter of responsibility for
> > > your expenses"
> > >
> > > Rodrigo, sadly for naturals of my country it's not easy to be trusted
> > > so easily.
> > >
> > > Sara, I'm moving the thread to guadec-list as you suggest. The PDF you
> > > attached me is great! I was going to ask for one with almost exactly
> > > those details. Still, as I just explained, I have to give the
> > > financial info.
> > >
> > > Jaime, yes I'm going to GUADEC-es too!. arturogf on #gnome-hispano was
> > > kind enough to offer me the same. I'll be contacting you soon.
> > >
> > > And to everyone, just to clarify what's the intention of the financial
> > > thing. As Sara said, the thing is to convince the embassies that the
> > > guests will not have financial problems while on UK/wherever. In that
> > > context, I just need financial info that proofs that the GNOME
> > > foundation is a wealthy organization, enough to _really_ pay for my
> > > trip and that it's not just an invention of me and my UK friends.
> > > Yes, yes, I also think it's silly but this is how things are for
> > > me :(.
> > >
> > > So to resume, what I need is a trustful report that tells the embassy
> > > (in numbers):
> > >
> > > 1. GNOME Foundation is wealthy enough to pay my expenses
> > > 2. GNOME Foundation actually exists and $someone-not-me knows about it
> > >
> > > I was suggested that a printed report of the IRS (the "Internal
> > > Revenue System" of the US) would be enough. I understand that the
> > > Foundation is US based (?).
> > > If not, a report from $country's-IRS-equivalent would be enough. I
> > > repeat, I don't need to tell the embassy how much money is in
> > > Foundation's bank account. I only need to proof that it moves money,
> > > and the taxes and info reported to the $country state as a non-profit
> > > would be enough.
> > >
> > > Maybe this time I was clearer?.
> > > Just to _really_ stress this out: It's not easy for me to get out of
> > > Perú, sadly naturals from my country are not well seen by other govs.
> > >
> > > Thanks everyone for your replies and will to help, I really
> > > appreciate it.
> > >
> > > Hope to see you at GUADEC!,
> > >
> > > Diego
> >
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