Re: [guadec-list] Foundation financial info

[Thomas Wood <thos gnome org>]

Dave,

As you  have been doing the foundation budgets that relate to Guadec,  
could you write something for Diego? Or perhaps Zana would be a more  
appropriate person to draft a statement?

Regards,

Thomas


On 8 Jun 2007, at 20:49, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote:

> Hey Thomas
>
> On 6/8/07, Thomas Wood <thos gnome org> wrote:
> > Hi Diego,
> >
> > Your sponsorship to GUADEC is being paid for by GUADEC-UK, rather than
> > the foundation. GUADEC-UK is oraganising Guadec 2007 on behalf of the
> > GNOME Foundation. We have separate accounts to make the logistics
> > easier and as such GUADEC-UK has not had a bank account for very long.
> Hmmm, maybe we can show some kind of proof or receipt that shows that
> GUADEC-UK is a "local branch" of the Foundation?. I mean, just to give
> the existence of GUADEC-UK "support". A simple letter from the
> Foundation acknowledging the existence and purpose of GUADEC-UK would
> be fine I think.
>
> I think that if GUADEC-UK financial state has nice numbers (read: more
> than two pennies), there shouldn't be a problem.
>
> > I'm fairly sure this is going to make things even more difficult for
> > you, but perhaps you can suggest what we could arrange so that you are
> > able to get a visa quickly and efficiently?
> I'll double-check that this doesn't make things more complicated. But
> I think it would only be needed to proof that GUADEC-UK is funded to
> some extent by the Foundation.
>
> > Regards,
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 08:26:22 -0500
> > "Diego Escalante Urrelo" <diegoe gnome org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Rodrigo, Sara, Jaime!
> > >
> > > I'm sad to say it but, I think you have never invited a peruvian to  
> > > go
> > > outside of his/her country :(. It's hell.
> > >
> > > But let's be rational. You can see (in spanish) requisites for visas
> > > for UK and Spain:
> > >
> > > http://www.mae.es/Consulados/Lima/es/MenuPpal/Visados/ 
> > > Visado+de+Turismo/
> > > http://www.britishembassy.gov.uk/servlet/Front?pagename=OpenMarket/ 
> > > Xcelerate/ShowPage&c=Page&cid=1136904295400
> > >
> > > Note that Spain doesn't say it clearly but you can take my word that
> > > it's a requisite.
> > > In the case of UK you can read:
> > >
> > > "Si es otra persona quien cubre los gastos debe proporcionarle,  
> > > además
> > > de los estados de cuenta bancarios y boletas de pago de sueldo, una
> > > carta de responsabilidad por sus gastos..."
> > >
> > > Which for our English speaking friends basically means something  
> > > like:
> > >
> > > "If someone else is taking care of your expenses he/she should  
> > > provide
> > > bank account states, pay checks and a letter of responsibility for
> > > your expenses"
> > >
> > > Rodrigo, sadly for naturals of my country it's not easy to be trusted
> > > so easily.
> > >
> > > Sara, I'm moving the thread to guadec-list as you suggest. The PDF  
> > > you
> > > attached me is great! I was going to ask for one with almost exactly
> > > those details. Still, as I just explained, I have to give the
> > > financial info.
> > >
> > > Jaime, yes I'm going to GUADEC-es too!. arturogf on #gnome-hispano  
> > > was
> > > kind enough to offer me the same. I'll be contacting you soon.
> > >
> > > And to everyone, just to clarify what's the intention of the  
> > > financial
> > > thing. As Sara said, the thing is to convince the embassies that the
> > > guests will not have financial problems while on UK/wherever. In that
> > > context, I just need financial info that proofs that the GNOME
> > > foundation is a wealthy organization, enough to _really_ pay for my
> > > trip and that it's not just an invention of me and my UK friends.
> > > Yes, yes, I also think it's silly but this is how things are for
> > > me :(.
> > >
> > > So to resume, what I need is a trustful report that tells the embassy
> > > (in numbers):
> > >
> > > 1. GNOME Foundation is wealthy enough to pay my expenses
> > > 2. GNOME Foundation actually exists and $someone-not-me knows about  
> > > it
> > >
> > > I was suggested that a printed report of the IRS (the "Internal
> > > Revenue System" of the US) would be enough. I understand that the
> > > Foundation is US based (?).
> > > If not, a report from $country's-IRS-equivalent would be enough. I
> > > repeat, I don't need to tell the embassy how much money is in
> > > Foundation's bank account. I only need to proof that it moves money,
> > > and the taxes and info reported to the $country state as a non-profit
> > > would be enough.
> > >
> > > Maybe this time I was clearer?.
> > > Just to _really_ stress this out: It's not easy for me to get out of
> > > Perú, sadly naturals from my country are not well seen by other govs.
> > >
> > > Thanks everyone for your replies and will to help, I really
> > > appreciate it.
> > >
> > > Hope to see you at GUADEC!,
> > >
> > > Diego
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