Re: Gtk::Container child properties

Thank you. I didn’t notice that, sorry. We’re not in a hurry I think :)

On 07 Jun 2014, at 12:03, Kjell Ahlstedt <kjell ahlstedt bredband net> wrote:

Oops, I didn't get notified when you attached your patches to the bug report, because I was not on its CC 
list. I've added myself now. I'll have a look at your patches, but it may take a couple of days.


2014-06-06 20:05, Juan Rafael García Blanco skrev:

I don’t want to bore you, but anyways, do you have any comments on this?

Best regards,

On 06 May 2014, at 22:25, Juan Rafael García Blanco 
<juanrgar gmail com>


I managed to get GtkContainer child properties working ^^ No matter this gets accepted or not, I’m quite 
happy to have dug into gtkmm internals quite successfully :)

I’ll attach patches soon in the bug report for you to review them.

(I just wanted to share this with you; I know this is a pretty easy thing to do)

Best regards,

On 28 Apr 2014, at 11:01, Kjell Ahlstedt 
<kjell ahlstedt bredband net>

It must be possible to build glibmm without access to gtk+ or gtkmm. Gtkmm header files must not be 
included in glibmm source code. In that respect glibmm must be independent of gtkmm.

In a weaker sense of the word, I think some dependence would be acceptable. E.g. gmmproc might handle a 
_WRAP_CHILD_PROPERTY macro, even if there are no child properties in glibmm.
Something similar is done already. glibmm/tools/pm/ handles _WRAP_CORBA_METHOD. A comment 
says that it's used in libbonobomm. (I don't know anything about it. I don't even know if it's still 
M4 code specific to gtkmm should be no problem. Gtkmm already has its own m4 files, e.g. 
gtkmm/tools/m4/class_gtkobject.m4 for _CLASS_GTKOBJECT.

I don't like that gmmproc uses both Python, Perl and M4. No one knows all three well. I dislike m4. It's 
a powerful text processor, but it's very different from any other programming language that I've used. I 
wouldn't mind if you write all new gmmproc code in Perl. But that's just my personal opinion.


2014-04-26 13:51, Juan Rafael García Blanco skrev:


I’ve just started working on this. I think we would need to provide a similar API for child properties 
as for other properties, because I don’t think all GtkContainer (maybe not even one) expose child 
properties through regular methods.

I see a major problem in doing this and I can’t find a valid approach that does not imply 
reimplementing a lot of things; maybe you could help me. The point is child properties are only 
available in Gtk+/gtkmm, while most of the infrastructure for generating code belongs to glibmm, and we 
don’t want to make glibmm depend on Gtk+ I think.

First, we would need to make child properties appear in gtk_signals.defs or other .defs file. That 
could be done more or less easily creating an additional get_defs in gtkmm.

Second, we would need to extend gmmproc to handle child properties. I see here a major problem. I’m not 
sure we could use the same _WRAP_PROPERTY / _PROPERTY_PROXY macros for child properties, i.e I don’t 
know if we could handle differences between gobject properties and child properties at pm level or at 
m4 level. What is your feeling about this?

Third, we need to create a new PropertyProxy. I think this is the easiest; I’ve written some code for 
this on a local branch.

Could you please comment on this?

Thank you very much.

Best regards,

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