Re: [Gtk-osx-users] PyGTK on top of native GTK+?

[John Ralls <jralls ceridwen us>]

On Aug 30, 2009, at 9:35 PM, John Pye wrote:

> Hi all
>
> Can anyone give me some steps for getting PyGTK running on top of  
> native
> GTK+ on Mac OS X?
>
> I have a PyGTK app that I want to port to Mac. I've made some progress
> already, but only via X11:
> http://ascendwiki.cheme.cmu.edu/Porting_to_Mac
>
> Are the Mac-specific bits of GTK+ wrapped by/accessible from PyGTK  
> now?
>
> Is it conceivable that native GTK+ will ever be distributed with fink?
>
> Is Glade included in the GTK OS X installer at this stage?


There's been some discussion of pygtk in the following forum topics:

https://sourceforge.net/apps/phpbb/gtk-osx/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4
https://sourceforge.net/apps/phpbb/gtk-osx/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=14
https://sourceforge.net/apps/phpbb/gtk-osx/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8

I do want to write a good how-to for pygtk apps, but it's not near the  
top of my rather long todo list at the moment, I'm afraid. I haven't  
been able to fish anyone else into doing it, either.

Yes, the mac stuff is buried pretty deeply in Gtk+, so if you build  
PyGtk from this project then the mac stuff comes along for the ride,  
except for ige-mac-integration, which must be built twice. The first  
time it's build automatically; the second, after PyGtk is built, it  
must be built again with the python bindings enabled. Then your python  
app needs to import it and you have to write a little extra code to  
integrate the menus and the Dock icon.

I hope that Fink and MacPorts will not try to package Gtk-OSX. The  
underlying philosophy is rather different. That said, you *can* build  
MacPorts apps with Quartz instead of X11.

There is no Gtk-OSX installer. There are some frameworks at the old  
site (www.gtk-osx.org) which provide the very basic glib and gtk+  
libraries and those upon which they depend. They aren't the current  
version, and I haven't gotten the framework build scripts to work  
enough to my satisfaction that I'm willing to provide prebuilt  
binaries, so for now you have to build everything you need locally and  
provide application bundles to your users. There is a module for  
Glade, and I also maintain a large Glade-based application (Gnucash),  
so I'm confident that it works just fine under Gtk-OSX.

Good luck,
John Ralls