Re: TinyX & Gtk

[Owen Taylor <otaylor redhat com>]

On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 03:54, Rodolfo Giometti wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 06:56:10PM -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:
> > Shouldn't need any. TinyX is just X.
> 
> Yes you are right, but, please, let me try to explain myself
> better. :)
> 
> If I compile a simple application against normal X target I get:

>    giometti zaigor:/home/develop/gtk/gtktinyX/gtk+-2.2.4/examples/helloworld$ make
>    gcc helloworld.c -o helloworld -Wall -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED `pkg-config gtk+-2.0 --cflags --libs`
>    giometti zaigor:/home/develop/gtk/gtktinyX/gtk+-2.2.4/examples/helloworld$ ldd helloworld
> 	   libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x40028000)
> 	   libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x40233000)
> 	   libatk-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0 (0x40296000)
> 	   libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 (0x402ac000)
> 	   libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x402bd000)
> 	   libpangoxft-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so.0 (0x402e0000)
> 	   libpangox-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpangox-1.0.so.0 (0x40301000)
> 	   libpango-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0 (0x4030e000)
> 	   libgobject-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 (0x40340000)
> 	   libgmodule-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 (0x40370000)
> 	   libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40374000)
> 	   libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x40378000)
> 	   libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x403dc000)
> 	   libXi.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x4050a000)
> 	   libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x40512000)
> 	   libXft.so.2 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.2 (0x40520000)
> 	   libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x40531000)
> 	   libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x405f9000)
> 	   libXrender.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x40608000)
> 	   libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x4060f000)
> 	   libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x40636000)
> 	   /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)
> 	   libexpat.so.1 => /usr/lib/libexpat.so.1 (0x406a0000)
> 
> So I need the specific X libraries:
> 
> 	   libXi.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x4050a000)
> 	   libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x40512000)
> 	   libXft.so.2 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.2 (0x40520000)
> 	   libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x40531000)
> 	   libXrender.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x40608000)
> 
> but if I look into tinyX dirs I get:
> 
>    giometti zaigor:/home/develop/tinyX/build/tinyX$ find . -name 'lib*'
>    ./usr/X11R6/lib
>    ./usr/X11R6/lib/libXau.a
>    ./usr/X11R6/lib/libXdmcp.a
> 
> So my question was about how I can get that the GTK doesn't use the
> above X libraries or how to get from the tinyX build process the X
> libraries needed by the GTK.
> 
> I hope I explain better my problem... excuse me for my english! :)

TinyX is just an X server. You'll need to to get X libraries from
somewhere. 

(You can build GTK+ without the libXi dependency - in
fact, you have to actually specify --with-xinput to get that dependency.

You can also build without libXft/libXrender for 2.2, though that's
very much not recommended, and 2.4 will absolutely require them.

But there's no way you are ever going to be able to have GTK+
running on X without a libX11 dependency... )

Regards,
					Owen