Re: Gtk... collapsable toolbars?

[Lars Hallberg <lah micropp se>]

Douglas Ian Linder wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I've seen an example (compiled. :( ) of a gtk application with toolbars
> like those seem in mozilla; ie. on the far left is a left textured bar
> which when clicked flattens the toolbar and makes it disappear.
>  
This is not what You asked for.. sorry.

But most mozilla developers agre on that this feature is one of the 
worst UI-problem with mozilla and it will likly go away (around 1.5). 
The problems are:

Tolbar grippes is not suposed to work like this (don't do it anywhere 
else). They are for moving tolbars, possably puting them vertikal and 
some times for 'ripping them off'. Not for hiding the tolbar.

Having the 'hide' tolbar as an 'one click' funktion makes it easey to 
hide the toolbar by mistake (aiming for the first icon or the 'file' 
menu). A user not familiar with this funktionality will have no clue 
what hapened and will probably asume the app whent somewhat broken :-(

Collapsing more then one toolbar leaves no clue what grippy opens what 
toolbar.

A solution deskussed is to implement real grippys (allowing rearangemt 
of the toolbars with drag and drop), and when that is done, reimplement 
the colapsing feature as an item on the right click menu (where 
rightclicking a colapsed grippy shows the name of the tolbar to be 
shown, solwing that problem to somewhat).

Untill then, this feature is likly to go (its gone in phx alredy - but 
the funktionality is avalible thru the 'wiev' menu).

I'm not telling You not to do this... but recomend You to think about an 
extra time.

Sorry for the spam :-/