Re: accel key... <alt> or <ctrl>

[Michael L Torrie <torriem cs byu edu>]

Definitely disagree.  Part of the goals of GTK and GUIs on linux in
general is to provide a consistant user experience.  Gnome programs, and
gtk programs look and act alike for a reason.  There is no need to try to
force modern apps to behave in the way older, non-gui based apps behaved.
Most users who are smart enough to deal with the command line are smart
enought to use the appropriate ctrl keys and do most of their cut and
paste with the middle-button-paste thing anyway.

For whatever reasons, everybody is standardized on Ctrl-X, Ctrl-V, and
Ctrl-C.  Now of course I wish gnome apps would allow ctrl-ins and
shift-ins like windows used to.

Besides that, console apps have no knowledge (nor would it be appropriate
to have) of the X11 clipboard.  Instead, you could program the terminal
emulator window to paste and cut, but we can already do that now with
select to copy, then middle click to paste.  So of course it's not logical
to expect pine to do anything with Ctrl-V other than what it already does.
Also pressing Ctrl-C in my terminals stops the program; anything that's
selected gets copied to the clipboard the instant you select it, as per
X11 has always behaved.  Ctrl-C has nothing to do with the clipboard for
any console app.  (well most, anyway).

Netscape for some bizarre reason used to used Alt keys for this thing (cut
and paste) and it always was a huge glaring inconsistancy compared to all
other GUI programs on my desktop.

Michael

On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, vergence wrote:

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>  I think accel key should work with <alt>
>   cos, ctrl key is working so much in terminal...
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>   most key from a to z is reserved in terminal...
>  for example, when you press ctrl+c to stop a program, the selected block
>   will be copied simultaneously
>   when you type ctrl+v to paste into pine, it will not work well.
>   intead of paste, the next page will appear...
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