(off topic answer, but funny) A "dumb" question needs ananswer.. Y2K??



Maybe you should ask your employers their cars are Y2K compliant.
That should really freak 'em out. =]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marc [mailto:marcael@home.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 11:53 AM
> To: gtk-list@redhat.com
> Subject: [gtk-list] Re: A "dumb" question needs an answer.. Y2K??
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for the reply Erik...
> 
> Unfortunately, my employer DOES believe in the Y2K FUD.  They
> want to remove ANY software that has not been deemed Y2K compliant
> even if it isn't mission critical in and of itself.  They believe
> that any application like this could cause systems to crash or
> cause other applications to malfunction.  
> 
> On your other note, yes, I could do the Y2K testing myself, but the
> process we have in place for testing and entering it into our 
> Y2K compliant database is extremely time consuming.  Of course it
> is... why would you expect them to use common sense with that aspect
> of it if they aren't using it in deciding which apps are and are not
> Y2K compliant.  I was just hoping for some "golden" statement I can
> use to fight my cause or a web page like the one at:
> 
> http://www.rru.com/~meo/gimp/y2k.html  for the gimp itself.
> 
> I know it's ridiculous that they will accept pages like this
> as proof, but will not just take my word for it.  Anyone can
> put up a web page.  Yes, it is quite ridiculous.  I suppose
> I can put up a page saying that I checked everything and it
> looks compliant to me.  They may accept that, but if they
> found out that I was the author who knows what they'd do.  :-)
> 
> -Marc
> 
> Erik Mouw wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 10:36:19 -0500, Marc wrote:
> > > Background:
> > >
> > >   We make use of the gimp where I work.  My employer is
> > >   threatening to force its removal if I cannot show it to
> > >   be fully Y2K compliant.  I have pointed them to the
> > >   "unofficial" Y2K compliant gimp site and that seemed
> > >   to please them, but now they are telling me that they will
> > >   be removing glib, gtk, and the jpeg libraries since they can't
> > >   find any information relating to their Y2K compliance.  I
> > >   have tried to explain to them that these things are graphics
> > >   libraries and don't really manipulate dates in any way, but
> > >   they are steadfast for removing them.
> > 
> > Hmm, sadly enough your employer seems to believe in the Y2K 
> FUD. Ask your
> > employer if there is something mission critical built 
> around Gimp. What
> > will happen if Gimp is not Y2K compliant? Will it seriously 
> threaten your
> > company? If not, there is no reason to worry.
> > 
> > > What I'd Like:
> > >
> > >   I'd appreciate it if someone/developer could send me a
> > >   statement I can use as ammunition in reversing their desire
> > >   to remove this software.  Or possibly a web page specifically
> > >   mentioning this software as being Y2K compliant.
> > 
> > OK, you *have* the source. So what's easier than doing your 
> own Y2K audit?
> > First find all files which do date manipulations:
> > 
> >   find . -name "*.[ch]" -exec grep time {} /dev/null \;
> > 
> > Now check those files and see what happens with the dates. 
> The normal Unix
> > time functions are Y2K compliant, so as long as the 
> Gimp/GTK/Glib/jpeg
> > sources don't do anyhing special with the date, nothing 
> will go wrong.
> > 
> > If you don't want to do a Y2K audit, just set the 
> computer's clock to
> > 31-dec-1999-23:59, start Gimp and see what happens.
> > 
> > Also have a look at http://www.gnu.org/software/year2000.html .
> > 
> > Erik
> > 
> > --
> > J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory 
> Group, Department
> > of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information 
> Technology and Systems,
> > Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031,  2600 GA 
> Delft, The Netherlands
> > Phone: +31-15-2785859  Fax: +31-15-2781843  Email 
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