Re: [PATCH] file chooser: Restore consistent click behavior (for gtk 3.20)
- From: Matthias Clasen <mclasen redhat com>
- To: Tomasz Gąsior <kontakt tomaszgasior pl>, gtk-devel-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: [PATCH] file chooser: Restore consistent click behavior (for gtk 3.20)
- Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2017 10:41:51 -0400
On Fri, 2017-10-06 at 09:52 +0200, Tomasz Gąsior wrote:
W dniu 2017-10-05 19:02, Matthias Clasen napisał(a):
On Thu, 2017-10-05 at 11:46 +0200, Jean Delvare wrote:
The change in single-click vs double-click in the GTK 3 file
chooser
from commit fb0a13b7f070 ("file chooser: Allow activating without
double-click") causes more problems than it resolves. There have
been
a lot of complaints about it:
* The first item in a directory is selected by default, so a
double-click on it misbehaves. Specifically, if that item is a
directory, the first click enters the directory, and the second
click will apply to whatever is listed first in that directory
(which is also selected by default, so effect is immediate.)
This
is unexpected and quite confusing.
* The ability to activate a selected file or directory with a
single
click interacts badly with selection of multiple files. If you
start the selection with a file which was already selected,
then
that file is immediately opened, before you have a chance to
complete your selection.
* This new behavior is inconsistent with Nautilus, GTK 2
applications
(which are sill many) or basically any other existing GUI
toolkit.
Having incompatible behavior between applications is confusing
for
the user.
* While a number of people are advocating the ban of double-click
and
the use of single-click for everything to make computers easier
to
use by non-tech-savvy people and people with limited abilities,
this change does not even achieve that.
If the problem that this change was supposed to address is that
double-clicking fast is a challenge for some people, this issue
should be addressed at the desktop environment level, by
accessibility tools and/or mouse configuration. The GTK 3 file
chooser is way too high level and specialized to handle this.
So the best thing to do is to revert this change. Ubuntu has
already
done so, and SUSE is in the process of doing the same.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758065
You are just bringing back the complaints about double-click.
There is no winning here, and I will not support any simple
reversal
unless it comes along with a person who is willing to maintain the
filechooser long-term, and field all the complaints from the 'its
still
not the same as nautilus' crowd.
IMO the way forward for the file chooser in GTK+ is
GtkFileChooserNative, making this entire mess somebody elses
problem.
Can't you just add ability to change single- or double-click behavior
in
dconf?
For example you can create setting
"/org/gtk/settings/file-chooser/click-mode" with two possible values
"double" or "single".
If "click-mode" is set to "double", do nothing because this is
default
behavior of GtkTreeView. If "click-mode" is set to "single", set
"activate-on-single-click" property of GtkTreeView class to "true".
It's all. It seems to me it would be simple to maintain in the
future.
And this way is more consistent — you always have to double-click or
single-click. Also you don't have to write a lot of code — all it's
needed is in GtkTreeView now.
Adding an option is not a solution at all, thats just a way to avoid
finding a solution.
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