Re: GObject Introspection as part of the GNOME platform
- From: Owen Taylor <otaylor redhat com>
- To: Mathieu Lacage <mathieu lacage sophia inria fr>
- Cc: gtk-devel-list gnome org, muppet <scott asofyet org>
- Subject: Re: GObject Introspection as part of the GNOME platform
- Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:13:08 -0400
On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 20:17 +0100, Mathieu Lacage wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 11:08 -0400, muppet wrote:
> > Johan Dahlin wrote:
> > > As far as I can see there aren't any easy solutions.
> > > We're depending on libffi to calculate struct sizes for the typelib
> > > which is very
> > > much host and compiler dependent. g-ir-compile really needs to run on the
> > > target system the way things are setup right now. The same applies
> > > for the small generated program which introspects signals & properties, but
> > > that's probably easier to solve.
> > >
> > > In my opinion, supporting cross-compilation shouldn't be a blocker for
> > > integration into glib proper. It's more of a 'nice feature' to support.
> >
> > I'm sure people putting gnome on phones will disagree.
It's really up to people who care about cross-compiling GLib to make
gobject-introspection work cross-compiled. Someone else could throw some
code in, but it's unlikely to actually work.
And if people don't care about *working* then nothing has to be done -
just don't do any testing of the new features and you'll never know they
are wrong and you won't have any regressions.
Making a "cross" g-ir-compiler work properly is not a big deal - you
need the size and structure alignment of a half-a-dozen types, which
could be done as cache variables, or with fancy tricks of the
AC_CHECK_SIZEOF() variety.
Then you also have to know what size integers the compiler uses for
enums of different ranges, which can be done with AC_CHECK_SIZEOF().
> > You could do tricks like using the cross compiler to generate assembly instead
> > of machine code from specially-crafted, generated C code, and then parse the
> > resulting assembly to extract the structure sizes and offsets.
>
> Maybe it is really obvious but, why are you not using the output of
> readelf -wi ? It's fairly trivial to parse and all of this could be done
> on the host without any working target provided you have a
> cross-compiler.
And readelf! and ELF!
- Owen
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