Re: ideas on improving the performance of gtk_tree_view
- From: Federico Mena Quintero <federico ximian com>
- To: Michael Natterer <mitch gimp org>
- Cc: gtk-devel-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: ideas on improving the performance of gtk_tree_view
- Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:35:07 -0600
El vie, 23-03-2007 a las 23:19 +0100, Michael Natterer escribi�> I would rather say we absolutely don't abuse lists here. There is no
> significant difference between list and array for a couple of items
> (say < 50 items). The only abuse I see is creating a treeview with
> 5000 columns. The widget is simply not made for that. It would be
> the same as optimizing GtkVBox for 5000 children and asking for
> the internal list being replaced by an array.
So, a few things:
* 5000 columns is definitely abusing the *user*. Who cares about the
toolkit.
* A tree row has an immutable number of columns; their datums are of
known sizes. This screams "array".
* An array would give you less memory overhead from allocator padding,
better cache locality, less pressure on the allocator, and constant-time
access to the columns. I bet that it will also require less code than a
list :)
> What GTK+ needs here is a *sheet* widget, something that is optimized
> for organizing two-dimensional data in an efficient way. Hacking up
> GtkTreeView for insane use cases does no good whatsoever.
Yes, we definitely need a sheet widget. I don't know why people don't
just write one, or revive the old one. Maybe they are scared that it
doesn't do enough for a spreadsheet --- but people are not building
spreadsheets; they just want to display simple tabular data.
> P.S.: I do not say that optimizing treeview is a bad idea, I would
> just find it very unfortunate to waste developer resources
> in order to optimize use cases like this.
I'd rather not discourage people who are actually bothering to profile
our shitty code --- they don't come along very often.
Federico
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