Re: Inplace Tips for GtkTreeView (#346992)

["Michael Urman" <murman gmail com>]

On 7/19/06, Michael Urman <murman gmail com> wrote:
> On 7/19/06, Kristian Rietveld <kris gtk org> wrote:
> > Supporting this in the generic tooltips API probably adds quite a bit of
> > complexity.  That said, I am also still unsure whether it makes sense to
> > have this in GTK+.
>
> That fits my assessment. It looks a lot like a tooltip, but it doesn't
> act much like one, and thus should be separate from tooltips. So what
> more do you need to know to help you become sure whether or not this
> belongs in GTK+?
>
> Arguments I see for having it in GTK+:
>   * It requires API addition to CellRenderer interface (the patch uses
> up a reserved pointer) to determine the real size of a column's
> contents.
>   * It relies on a semi-private TreeViewColumn method to render the
> contents on the tip. It could alternately leverage a way to copy
> CellRenderers with attributes and functions from one CellLayout to
> another, but I think this way is preferable.
>   * It makes it really easy for all applications to use this - just
> set a property on a TreeViewColumn and it gets inplace-tips for that
> column.
>   * From the user perspective, it catches us up to Windows usability
> in TreeViews.
>
> Arguments against:
>   * It uses up one of two reserved pointers in the CellRenderer
> Interface; even if it's doing so with a general function, there might
> be something more important later.
>   * It's unproven; only one app is using something close (but less
> complete), and there have been reports it conflicts with button
> presses in some environment. It hasn't gone through libegg.
>
> I'd really like to see this capability in GTK+, but the sooner we get
> to a solid yes or no, the happier I'll be.

It's been two weeks without any hints to how I can help you (Kris, or
anyone else) decide. Please give me some indication as to what the
path is for ths sort of patch. I don't want it to disappear because I
give up without feedback. I don't mind either a yes or no answer, but
the silence saps my will to work with GTK+ development.

Thanks,
Michael
--
Michael Urman  http://www.tortall.net/mu/blog