Re: [pygtk] Installation problems win32

[dave <dave immunitysec com>]

As a Windows GTK+ developer who distributes pyGTK-based commercial 
applications, I'd really appreciate continued support of a win32 
installer. Right now our install.txt says:
1. Install Python2.3.exe
2. install GTK+.exe
3. install pyGTK.exe

I'd really like to keep it that way, or at least keep that as an option.

-dave



John Ehresman wrote:

> Christian Robottom Reis wrote:
>
> > Well, this places a lot of burden on the application developer, who then
> > needs to keep track of which runtimes are kept up to date and which ones
> > are well distributed. It also forces him to justify and support the N
> > [potentially incompatible] distributions that are out there, because
> > users usually don't know or care the runtime is broken, "the app just
> > doesn't work!" Also, requiring every GTK+/PyGTK application user to
> > download and install Yet Another Distribution is harsh.
>
>
> I think the application developers would pick one distribution to work 
> with and preferably include the distribution with their app.  I 
> recently installed X-Chat on windows and was glad to see that it 
> didn't require any separate gtk distribution -- I just ran the 
> installer and it works.  I almost wouldn't know it used gtk, except 
> for some of the win32 differences I notice.  IMHO, end users shouldn't 
> need to care whether they're using a gtk based app or not.
>
> There are going to be different runtimes out there because some will 
> have bugs and have less features than others.  It's a lot easier to 
> support an app when you distribute the runtime with it because then 
> you can reproduce & fix problems and then distribute the fixes.
>
> > Standardization would really help us here; it's hurting win32 adoption
> > of GTK+.
>
>
> Where I differ is that I don't think standardization is the primary 
> problem -- instead I think the problem is that it's difficult to 
> compile, package, and deliver the complete chain of runtime libraries. 
> I suspect Qt would run into the same issues if every Qt app required a 
> separate shared runtime to be installed.
>
> There's a difference between packaging for developers and end users. 
> Developer's want something that will let them write applications and 
> then distribute those applications to as many people as possible.  End 
> users want to be able to easily install an application (which usually 
> means a single installer) and then to be able to use it.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
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