Re: OpenGL support in GTK+
- From: Naofumi Yasufuku <naofumi yasufuku net>
- To: Owen Taylor <otaylor redhat com>
- Cc: Sven Neumann <sven gimp org>, Jeff Franks <jcf tpg com au>, gtk-devel-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: OpenGL support in GTK+
- Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 19:28:08 +0900
At Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:34:00 -0400,
Owen Taylor wrote:
>
[snip]
>
> By making this integration "official", we get advantages that:
>
> - It's clear what to use to use OpenGL with GTK+
> - There are less dependency problems. Multiple competing
> OpenGL-for-GTK+ libraries could cause problems if, say,
> a library wanted to use OpenGL.
> - We can make sure that the API is something that we are happy with
>
> There are several levels of integration that could be discussed here:
>
> - Make GDK actually link to OpenGL, include a "GtkGLArea" in
> libgtk proper.
>
> There are two problems with this:
>
> - First, ever GTK+ application gets a dependency on the
> libGL shared library. The overhead of that is noticeable.
> (Qt does always link to libGL...)
>
> - OpenGL becomes a build dependency of GTK+. While it would be
> an optional build depenency, that means that if you first
> build GTK+, then build GL, you have to rebuild GTK+ again.
>
> - Include another library in the gtk+ tarball. Has the same
> build dependency problem. Doesn't have the problem with
> making all apps link to libGL.
>
> Note that there is a libglade integration problem with this,
> as Naofumi points out. Either libglade has to depend on this
> library (pulling in libGL) or this library has to depend
> on libglade (note possible if it's part of GTK+.)
>
> If we do go ahead and add libglade-like capabilities to GTK+,
> as has been discussed, then that problem goes away. So whether
> this is a problem depends on how things are scheduled.
>
> - Bless an OpenGL library as official (put it on ftp.gtk.org.)
> Has similar problems with libglade integration, since we
> presumably don't want to bless libglade as official with it's
> current dependency on libxml. (Nothing wrong with libxml,
> but it's large.)
>
Third level may be a reasonable way to most(?) of GTK+ people (not to
me).
* Keep GtkGLExt as a separate package.
* GtkGLExt library provides new GtkGLArea widget.
* GtkGLExt package provides libglade module (GtkGLExt depends on
libglade), or libglade supports GtkGLArea widget (libglade depends
on GtkGLExt).
* Work on glade developers to support GtkGLArea widget (glade depends
on GtkGLExt).
But, from point of view of a GtkGLExt developer, integrating GdkGLExt
library into GDK seems natural way.
Basically, GdkGLExt API follows GLX 1.3 API (however, current internal
code uses GLX 1.2 for portability).
X11
----------------------------------------------------------------
Display *display;
Window window;
GLXFBConfig fbconfig;
GLXWindow glxwindow;
window = XCreateWindow (display, parent, ...);
glxwindow = glXCreateWindow (display, fbconfig, window, NULL);
----------------------------------------------------------------
GDK
----------------------------------------------------------------
GdkWindow *window;
GdkGLConfig *glconfig;
GdkGLWindow *glwindow;
window = gdk_window_new (parent, ...);
glwindow = gdk_gl_window_new (glconfig, window, NULL);
----------------------------------------------------------------
Programmer have to take care to keep a pair of window and glwindow, so
GdkGLExt library provides gdk_window_*() extension functions which
add OpenGL support to GdkWindow.
----------------------------------------------------------------
GdkWindow *window;
GdkGLConfig *glconfig;
GdkGLWindow *glwindow;
window = gdk_window_new (parent, ...);
glwindow = gdk_window_set_gl_capability (window, glconfig, NULL);
....
void a_func (GdkWindow *window)
{
GdkGLWindow *glwindow = gdk_window_get_gl_window (window);
}
----------------------------------------------------------------
gdk_window_set_gl_capability() creates new GdkGLWindow, then set it to
GdkWindow's qdata. GdkWindow supports OpenGL, and programmer can add
OpenGL-capability using set_gl_capability(). If GdkWindow is
OpenGL-capable, get_gl_window() returns GdkGLWindow. The same thing is
also provided for GdkPixmap and GdkGLPixmap.
I think it will be much help for adding OpenGL support to the existing
code.
If people don't need maximum flexibility, and don't like such
extension functions, GdkGLExt library should be kept out of GDK.
Regards,
--Naofumi
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