Re: helpme starting to develop applications with GTK+

[i VS 미솔리 <ivsp msn com>]

hi.
i have not built a software on Unix and have no experience of configure 
scripts or make.
just i have built a software of VC++ on Microsoft Windows xx by visual 
studio IDE.
but now i want to write a software that can run on various platform.

so now i want to know how to develop applications with GTK+.
also i know GTK+ Win32 packages for Windows, are they not packages only to 
write a application with GTK+ runable on Windows?
that is, i have known it is that GTK+ API installed under Windows just is 
probably a purpose to implement a GUI on GTK+ framework
not using MS's Win32 API. then that software published by can run on as 
Linux, Unix, Mac..?

about error message of the make command : i run make in gtk+-2.8.9/ folder, 

there is files as Makefile.am, Makefile.in, configure, configure.in, 
config.sub .. more.

about msvc: this is MS Visual Studio(v6.0), as near he is Visual C++.

about IDE i tell: yeh, it is yours. in addition i want to know how to build 
the GTK+ applications by using MS Visual Studio or,
what is GUI IDE tools as like Visual studio, which is dynamic/powerfull 
code generating and facilities?
of course i have thought cannot compile a application with GTK+ by MSVC. 
also what is C library with GTK+, which can use multi-threaded, debugging, 
non-debugging C library like MSVCRT.DLL  ?

thanks.


> From: Tor Lillqvist <tml iki fi>
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> =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?aSBWUyC5zLzWuK4=?= writes:
>  > now i'm starting to develop application with GTK+ to support cross
>  > platform(unix-like system,mac-os,windows).
>
>  > first, i try to build and compile GTK+(2.8.9) on msys.
>
> (Note to others: note the *msys*. i.e. he's on Windows.)
>
> If you want to build applications that *use* GTK+, why do you think
> you will have to build GTK+ itself first?
>
> Have you ever built software of comparable complexity on Unix? It is a
> bit futile do dive straight in and try to build GTK+ on Windows with
> no experience of configure scripts or make.
>
>  > in this time, make's error founded as 'make  *** No targets specified 
and
>  > no makefile. Stop.
>
> There is some fundamental confusion here. In what folder did you give
> the "make" command? Is there a makefile in that folder?
>
> And anyway, I find it unlikely that you really want to compile
> GTK+. Just use the prebuilt Win32 packages from ftp.gtk.org. You don't
> need the GTK+ sources to *use* GTK+.
>
>  > what i need to organize IDE to develop application with GTK+?
>
> You need to tell the IDE where the GTK+, Pango, atk and GLib headers
> are, where their (import) libraries are, and what libraries to
> use. Really the same as for using any 3rd-party library.
>
> Basically, you could proceed by trial-and-error. Try to compile some
> trivial hello, world -type GTK+ sample. It will complain about not
> finding header files. Add the appropriate flags to point the compiler
> to the headers from the GTK+, Pango, atk and GLib developer
> packages. It will next complain about missing functions in the link
> phase. Add the appropriate flags and libraries (gtk-win32-2.0.lib,
> glib-2.0.lib at least) so that the functions your application calls
> will be found.
>
>  > additional i use msvc6,  what is the appropriate IDE i can choice?
>
> Wouldn't that be MSVC6's IDE then? (Or do you have just the
> command-line tools from MSVC6 but not the IDE (Visual Studio)? I don't
> know the MSVC6 product structure that well.)
>
> One point: You probably should tell MSVC (Visual Studio) to use the
> multi-threaded non-debugging dynamic C library (I don't recall what's
> the exact term Visual Studio uses, but it means MSVCRT.DLL) even if
> you compile your application for debugging. Otherwise you will have a
> different C runtime (library) in your application than in
> GTK+Pango+GLib, which is not a good idea.
>
> --tml
>
> P.S. Please keep this thread on the list, do not reply to me
> personally.