Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Wolfenstein & gnomemeeting

[Damien Sandras <dsandras seconix com>]

Le mer 07/01/2004 à 00:56, Rutka Patrick a écrit :
> Yep, but if I launch wolf after gnomemeeting wolf block to opening 
> on /dev/dsp. And wolf before gnomemeeting, gnomemeeting says me that it can't 
> open in full duplex ( I only hear my correspondant). So even ALSA doesn't 
> use /dev/dsp it blocks  it (Why ?).  And I don't understand why gnomemeeting 

ALSA will never use /dev/dsp. /dev/dsp is an OSS thing.

> can't have it in full duplex when I could use arts... (juk, noatun) with 
> that. /dev/snd is exclusif ?

On most cheap soundcards, yes, you can use only one program to access
it. Except if they are using a sound daemon (like Arts) that is mixing
the sounds before directing them to the soundcard. Notice that
gnomemeeting doesn't support output to sound daemons because they are
not designed for VoIP and add latency.

> > Probably something related to Mandrake. It is logically impossible to
> > play Wolfenstein and be in a call with GnomeMeeting at the same time,
> 
> LoL it's true... A other thing... before when launching gnomemeeting it 
> launched "esd" too in previous Mandrake.... And if it's the esd magic what's 
> going on ? Is it possible that be a card configuration (a SB live 1024!) ? 
> half duplex or something like that (maybe it's very stupid meaning but I 
> don't know) ??
> 

I don't understand the question, but if you are launching ESD, then
GnomeMeeting won't use it anyway, and it will block the soundcard for
use with Wolfenstein. If you are launching ESD and artsd at the same
time, then you have a big problem as they are sort of mutually
exclusive.

> > but, if gnomemeeting is just "idle", there should be no problem as the
> > device is not used. Does your problem appear when gnomemeeting is idle
> > too?
> >
> 
> Sorry for my english (I'am french) but I don't understand "idle"... just 
> gnomemeeting running without communication ?... if it's that menaing... 
> true.. It's only block new communication (and recording only).
> 

OK, that was the meaning.

> Can I use ALSA and OSS emulation together ? And for curious I am running the 

Yes

> same installation of wolfenstein between my new and old installation.
> 
> So I'am very curious to play as before and understand what it's taht trick ? 
> 

The problem is that I don't understand what you are doing and what you
are not doing and what you want to do. In all cases :
- you won't be able to have gnomemeeting in a communication and play
wolfenstein at the same time
- but you can play at wolfenstein then use gnomemeeting and the reverse

If it doesn't work, then you have something weird going on:
- a process keeping the soundcard busy (ESD, ARTSd, ...)
- a buggy driver

> ;-) Thanks for helping me.
> 
> Regards
> 
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