Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] 'Please install a sound card or Quicknet card'

[Damien Sandras <dsandras seconix com>]

Le lun 10/02/2003 à 14:54, John Francis Lee a écrit :
> Thanks again for the help.

> Maybe I've got the wrong idea. 
> 
> I imagine I can plug a regular telephone handset into my quicknet card
> and use it to dial a phone number and have the conversation.
> 

Yes, that's correct once you have a microtelco account.

> I need gnomemeeting because quicknet has decided that gnomemeeting will
> be the vehicle allowed to access guicknet's microtel accounts via their
> quicknet card on the linux platform. 
> 
> I don't see how latency over the lan will affect my phone conversation.
> 

Latency should be very low.

> Am I misunderstanding the whole business here?
> 

Not at all.

> I cannot run gnome on the machine in question. I thought I'd made that
> clear in my first message. I'm sorry I did not.
> 
> I think I have not installed all the components I need for gnome, but I
> don't know what those are. X windows runs, and vncserver runs, and
> vncviewer connects to vncserver, but all I see is an xterm with no
> widget adornments, no window manager, and a hatched background.
> 

I really don't understand your question and your mails. In a first mail,
you explain that GnomeMeeting tells you it doesn't detect any soundcard
or any quicknet card. I told you that it means that the driver is not
correctly installed for both the soundcard and the quicknet card.

Now, you are sending another mail about installation problems of Gnome
components. But, if you installed the package of your distribution
correctly, then you should have installed everything correctly as you
can not install a package without installing its dependancies too except
by explicitely forcing the breakage of deps, which I hope you didn't do.
I don't understand the relation between the xterm and GnomeMeeting.

Perhaps is it a VNC problem? No idea about this, however, I have a
question for you: if your quicknet card is in the gateway but that you
export your display to an internal machine, will you have a cable long
enough to go from the phone to the quicknet device? Also, why using
something like VNC when an export DISPLAY is clearly enough?

> I guess my question is what is the minimal list of packages that will
> allow me to make telehone instrument to PSTN voip calls via the quicknet
> card under linux? 

Install GnomeMeeting, and the Quicknet card correctly, that's enough. If
you run Debian, just type "apt-get install gnomemeeting" and it will
install the package and all its dependancies. If you run Mandrake, then
type "urpmi gnomemeeting", no idea for other distributions.

> 
> I know I need to run gnomemeeting, so I believe my question boils down
> to what are is the minimal list of components I need to run
> gnomemeeting?

The package will tell you what components are missing when you are
trying to install it.

> 
> Thanks again for all your help.
> 
> 
> On จ., 2003-02-10 at 01:46, Damien Sandras wrote:
> > the message indicating that GnomeMeeting can't be run without audio
> > device or without Quicknet cards means that GnomeMeeting didn't detect
> > any device. I guess it is a simple permissions problem. Check if it runs
> > as root, if it runs as root but not as a normal user, then your
> > permissions are wrong for that user.
> > 
> > That should be that simple.
> > 
> > 
> > Le dim 09/02/2003 à 06:41, John Francis Lee a écrit :
> > > Hello Stefan...
> > > 
> > > Thanks for the help.
> > > 
> > > I installed the quicknet card on gw, the machine which connects to the
> > > internet.
> > > 
> > > I am trying to run gnomemeeting on gw, over the wire from my workstation
> > > using vnc. 
> > > 
> > > The quicknet card, gnomemeeting, and the vncserver are on gw.
> > > 
> > > I am on a workstation, trying to run the gw/gnomemeeting in a vncviewer
> > > window on my workstation.
> > > 
> > > I must run gnomemeeting on the gw machine because it has the hardware
> > > and, as you point out, I cannot forward the hardware :-). 
> > > 
> > > I could run gnomeeting on gw itself or via vnc on my workstation if I
> > > could run gnomemeeting on gw at all. But I can't. It is my understanding
> > > that the gnomemeeting session must be on the machine with the hardware,
> > > right?
> > > 
> > > Thanks again for your help.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On อา., 2003-02-09 at 12:13, Stefan Bruens wrote:
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> > > > Am Sonntag, 9. Februar 2003 05:27 schrieb John Francis Lee:
> > > > > Dear gnomemeeting,
> > > > >
> > > > > Greetings. I'm very excited about PC-Phone telephony!
> > > > >
> > > > > I just installed my new quicknet pci card in the machine I'd like to us
> > > > > for internet telephony.
> > > > >
> > > > > The card was recognized during the boot sequence (2.4.20 kernel):
> > > > >  Linux telephony interface: v1.00
> > > > >  ixj: found Internet PhoneJACK PCI at 0xe800
> > > > >  $Id: ixj.c,v 4.7 2001/08/13 06:19:33 craigs Exp $
> > > > 
> > > > You installed the card in your Workstation, am I right?
> > > > 
> > > > > but when I try to start Gnomemeeting I get
> > > > >  GnomeMeeting can't be used without audio devices.
> > > > >  Please install a sound card or a Quicknet card.
> > > > 
> > > > and this is your Gateway where you are starting GM remote via a terminal?
> > > > The message is correct, this machine has no useable device, and forwarding of 
> > > > hardware is not yet supported, not even on Linux :-)
> > > > 
> > > > > I have just installed X on the machine in question.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is the gateway machine on our lan, and the only one that may get a
> > > > > public ip address.
> > > > 
> > > > This should be no problem, just start GM on your Workstation, forward the 
> > > > needed ports (see the FAQ for details), activate IP translation, and 
> > > > everything should be fine.
> > > > 
> > > > >[...]
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for all your help.
> > > > 
> > > > Hope this was helpful,
> > > > 
> > > > Stefan
> > > > 
> > > > - -- 
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