Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Gnomemeeting on notebooks under KDE



16 Декабрь 2003 19:31, Damien Sandras написал:
> Le mar 16/12/2003 à 13:05, info a écrit :
> > This is not gnomemeeting bug, but if anyone will use
> > gnomemeeting on notebook, he will have the same problem. I
> > think that Damian as gnomemeeting's mainteiner must ask v4l
> > and acpi maintainers to correct this bug.
>
> I think it is local to your configuration and laptop because
> I don't have that problem.

I have this problem on 7 different exemplares of 2 different 
models laptops. You haven't such problem on you laptop. It 
means only than some models have this problem, and some 
haven't. It means too, that some unlucky peoples (who buy the 
first type of laptop models) will have priblems, and other 
lucky (who buy another models) - no.

Only due to this I asked you to pay attention of v4l and acpi 
maintainers for this fact. You words as gnomemeeting mainteiner 
have much more authotity than my.

>
> GnomeMeeting is compatible with NO sound server for the
> simple reason that none of them are good enough in terms of
> latencies for Voice Over IP. So adding an option like the one
> you are describing is not feasible. The right fix is to not
> use artsd or esd at all. Also, artsd has an option to
> automatically suspend when it is not used instead of keeping
> the soundcard busy.

OK. It's good. But here is the such problem: gnomemeeting is the 
application that constantly must be in tray in call waiting. 
Like mail-notifier programms. Maybe, I will have 10 calls in a 
day. Maybe, one in a month. But all this month gnomemeeting 
must be in tray.
But if I don't start artsd or esd, I can't hear any mp3 all this 
month... And I can't to use xine for DVD, etc...
It means, than gnomemeeting must have tool to kill (or to 
temporary stop) any soundserver, soundapplication, xmms, xine 
etc - but only when I answer the incoming call. But when there 
are no calls, and gnomemeeting is in tray - gnomemeening must 
pay no attention for any other application that use sound card 
and videodevice.  


>
> > IMHO, it will be better if videodevice opens only when
> > gnomemeeting's window on desktop exists, and automatically
> > closed when gnomemeeting is only in tray.
> > Analogically, microphone must be muted when gnomemeeting is
> > in tray.
>
> I have to disagree here. If you explicitely request to
> display video images, it is normal that GnomeMeeting is
> displaying them. I think that you should not use video
> preview at all, that is not required to have video calls.

Maybe, my English is poor and your don't understand me... 

The process is: I start gnomemeeting, then close all it's 
windows, except tray, and gnomemeeting is on standby in 
waiting. Like mail-notifier. I don't know how much time it well 
be in such position - maybe, some hours, maybe, some weeks. All 
this time videocapturing isn't needed - I don't use 
gnomemeeting, but it wait calls...

I need video from the moment of incoming call. And I speak about 
such feature, that if I agree this call (or it's autoanswer) - 
only in this moment videocapturing begins.

Of course, I can manually switch off camera before I put 
gmomemeeting in tray. And I can manually switch it on when I 
begin a conference. I want to say about possibility to do this 
automatically (if I want), by setting some "radiobutton" 
somewhere near radiobutton "autoanswer". Only about this. 

Best regards.
George




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