Re: [GnomeMeeting-devel-list] re: HIG review

[Christopher Warner <us_redwolf yahoo com>]

I don't know if I'm reading the right HIG. To make
sure I'm reading the right HIG. I'm reading The Human
Inteface Guidelines (1.0). If there is another version
or another one, I'd like to read it. Reading HIG 1.0
the UI would have to be changed for Gnomemeeting to be
in full compliance. Before I say anymore I will
provide a mockup of a compliant Gnomemeeting interface
as soon as my connection is repaired.

I don't know exactly what Calum said regarding the
interface but i'd rather follow the documentation to
the letter and then have the usability team look the
mockups over. I'm making the broad assumption that the
guidelines were made to be followed and that any
deviation would come after the basic stuff is
followed.

Also when I say drastically changed, I mean it in the
sense that the UI will obviously be different to
someone who has been using gnomemeeting even for one
version. Sort of like starting up your favorite app
and realizing things have changed and requiring you to
learn a new interface.

As we are the only ones really talking about it, when
you get back if you can give me exacts as to what
Calum and you discussed about the interface so I can
decide if making the mockups is something worth
spending my time. If there are a couple of changes and
Calum said that would be ok to get Gnomemeeting HIG
1.0 compliant then I won't waste my time and it can be
spent with fiddling with that little buddy pic thing.

Anyone else have any view points on this?

-zanee

--- dsandras seconix com wrote:
> Hello to all,
> 
> 
> I'm in a Cybercafe. As I already stated in another
> mail, I don't think the
> HIG problems are so big as some people are thinking
> it.
> 
> The menus, the preferences and preferences windows,
> the addressbook, druid
> and various other windows are all following the HIG
> very closely (except
> for spacing).
> 
> I wonder what you mean by "drastically changing the
> GUI". Is there
> something wrong related to the text chat and control
> panel windows?
> I don't think so. I had discussed this with Calum
> and he agreed that the
> only "main" problem was with the vertical toolbar
> and with spacings.
> 
> So except moving the chat window and control panel
> out of the main window,
> what we all rejected to do, I don't see what can be
> "drastically" changed.
> 
> > I read the full HIG and the current GUI doesn't
> follow
> > it even closely. There are numerous problems
> including
> > the vertical toolbar. spacing etc as stated in the
> > review.
> >
> > However me and dominance were disucssing this at
> some
> > point and came to the conclusion that if the GUI
> is
> > going to be drastically changed we'd have to
> provide
> > an option for users to use the "classic" or non
> HIG
> > compliant GUI. Also the vertical toolbar isn't
> > necessarily disallowed by the HIG.. it says to use
> it
> > as a last resort so technically it's not against
> the
> > HIG. Also some of the reviews items such as not
> > knowing what specific acronym stands for etc are
> > remedied via documentation. It's understandable
> that
> > the user shouldn't need to read documentation to
> use
> > something as simple as a video conferencing app
> but
> > when the terms need to be used; they simply need
> to be
> > used. If it means that instead of acronyms we use
> the
> > full phrase to describe "X" then thats what we
> have to
> > do. However if a user doesn't know what ILS is
> then
> > they aren't going to know what Internet Locator
> > Service is until looking it up, so in some cases
> it's
> > a practice in futility, at the very least though
> the
> > acronym should be expanded.
> >
> > Everything else in this review I generally agree
> with,
> > but it means that the GUI has to be totally
> redone.
> > I've also already voiced my opinion on reporting
> GUI
> > bugs in bugzilla. Simply put, I think it's
> retarded;
> > you either try to follow the HIG for Gnome or you
> > don't. Even if the HIG is wrong or doesn't work
> for
> > certain situations then it's the HIG that needs to
> be
> > addressed first. Also program functionality and
> user
> > interface problems I feel are two different
> classes of
> > problem. So UI problems should probably be
> reported to
> > the list or compiled into a monthly, quarterly,
> > whatever review.
> >
> > In any event i'm back 7/29 if no one does an HIG
> > mock-up of the new interface by then I'll also
> help
> > with that. I've put aside approximately 4 weeks
> (28
> > days) specifically for gnomemeeting so it
> shouldn't
> > affect getting the documentation complete.
> >
> >
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