Re: [GnomeMeeting-devel-list] re: HIG review

[dsandras seconix com]

Hello to all,


I'm in a Cybercafe. As I already stated in another mail, I don't think the
HIG problems are so big as some people are thinking it.

The menus, the preferences and preferences windows, the addressbook, druid
and various other windows are all following the HIG very closely (except
for spacing).

I wonder what you mean by "drastically changing the GUI". Is there
something wrong related to the text chat and control panel windows?
I don't think so. I had discussed this with Calum and he agreed that the
only "main" problem was with the vertical toolbar and with spacings.

So except moving the chat window and control panel out of the main window,
what we all rejected to do, I don't see what can be "drastically" changed.

> I read the full HIG and the current GUI doesn't follow
> it even closely. There are numerous problems including
> the vertical toolbar. spacing etc as stated in the
> review.
>
> However me and dominance were disucssing this at some
> point and came to the conclusion that if the GUI is
> going to be drastically changed we'd have to provide
> an option for users to use the "classic" or non HIG
> compliant GUI. Also the vertical toolbar isn't
> necessarily disallowed by the HIG.. it says to use it
> as a last resort so technically it's not against the
> HIG. Also some of the reviews items such as not
> knowing what specific acronym stands for etc are
> remedied via documentation. It's understandable that
> the user shouldn't need to read documentation to use
> something as simple as a video conferencing app but
> when the terms need to be used; they simply need to be
> used. If it means that instead of acronyms we use the
> full phrase to describe "X" then thats what we have to
> do. However if a user doesn't know what ILS is then
> they aren't going to know what Internet Locator
> Service is until looking it up, so in some cases it's
> a practice in futility, at the very least though the
> acronym should be expanded.
>
> Everything else in this review I generally agree with,
> but it means that the GUI has to be totally redone.
> I've also already voiced my opinion on reporting GUI
> bugs in bugzilla. Simply put, I think it's retarded;
> you either try to follow the HIG for Gnome or you
> don't. Even if the HIG is wrong or doesn't work for
> certain situations then it's the HIG that needs to be
> addressed first. Also program functionality and user
> interface problems I feel are two different classes of
> problem. So UI problems should probably be reported to
> the list or compiled into a monthly, quarterly,
> whatever review.
>
> In any event i'm back 7/29 if no one does an HIG
> mock-up of the new interface by then I'll also help
> with that. I've put aside approximately 4 weeks (28
> days) specifically for gnomemeeting so it shouldn't
> affect getting the documentation complete.
>
>
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