Re: *.gnome.org common header - content and form

[Joachim Noreiko <jnoreiko yahoo com>]

> Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 17:15:05 +0200
> From: Claus Schwarm <c schwarm gmx net>
>
> On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 13:19:23 +0200
> Quim Gil <qgil desdeamericaconamor org> wrote:
> 
> > [...]
> > 
> > About subsites like Evolution's, my opinion is
> that any website being at
> > *.gnome.org/* needs to have by default the
> *.gnome.org common header. 
> > [...]
> 
> I'd like to note that I disagree. ;-)
> 
> There are many projects hosted by the GNOME servers.
> Many of them are
> not in one of the official GNOME packages. They just
> happen to have an
> account, probably because of bugzilla.

Do we have a full list of everything that is on the
GNOME servers?
Is http://gnomesupport.org/, for example? That uses
the common header, but its URL makes it look separate.

> These project may attract users from different
> operating systems. These
> users don't search for a desktop, but for
> applications. The concept of a
> "desktop" is usually unknown and confusing to most
> people. They are used
> to the rule "one operating system <=> one desktop". 

Very true. It took me a long time to figure out what a
'desktop environment' is. (The GNOME about page
doesn't really say, BTW.)
But GNOME is a project. People can understand that
Evolution is an application produced by a larger
organization called GNOME.

But there is a case for having two tiers:
* 'core' sites that have the common priamry link bar
* outer sites that don't

I think all sites should clearly link to www.gnome.org
in their header.

I'd like to see a common look across all sites, so
even if some sites don't use the common primary link
bar, they still have a common header design, and so
you feel you're within the gnome universe.

> I can also see this from a GNOME Journal point of
> view: Our visitors
> want to read interesting stories. 
> <snip) 
> If they get interested in what GNOME is, there's
> always a link to
> www.gnome.org. 

Actually, on http://gnomejournal.org/ I can't see how
to get to GNOME.

> We already have a rather similar header on our main
> community sites.
> Instead of dicussing something that will solve _not
> a single problem_,
> we should try to get real stuff done. IMHO, of
> course. ;-)

True, we have MUCH bigger problems to deal with.

Such as library.gnome.org for example! :)
Or fixing the docs on the website which are still 2.10
(please!)

These two issues are far more important than a common
header.

Or even putting a non-ugly header on the wiki. Even
the old header would do. Our documentation in yelp has
web links that go straight to the wiki. The way it
looks right now, a novice user has no idea where
they've landed.


		
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