Re: Logo for GNOME Accessibility

[Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>]

BTW, attached is what's used in the Assistive Technology Preferences 
Pane.  It doesn't seem too bad.  I still like the DaVinci thing, though, 
especially if it were more Tango-ized.

Will


Willie Walker wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> I'm just getting back on line after a lengthy business trip.  I'm tired 
> and I also see GNOME 2.21.91 just around the corner.  Yikes!
>
> I passed the current logos (one from sean and one from andreas) by a 
> small team of folks with strong opinions.  Ooohh...did I mention strong 
> opinions?  :-)  The main criticisms were:
>
> 1) Andreas' was too much like Apple's, and not enough indication of what 
> it was for.  I personally like it.  The blue reminds me of the standard 
> handicap sign (dude in a wheelchair) and it has a universal feel to it.
>
> 2) Sean's didn't look enough like a wheelchair.  :-(  People with 
> disabilities are very particular about how they and their tools are 
> represented.  For example, a blind person's cane should be drawn 
> correctly, a blind person's guide dog should be presented properly 
> (e.g., with a harness, not a leash), cliches need to be avoided (e.g., 
> dark sunglasses), etc.  This is a very sensitive and highly charged space.
>
> So, some thoughts I had:
>
> 0) The universal sign for accessibility is at the following URL. It's 
> simple and the blue color is very meaningful:
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Handicapped_Accessible_sign.svg 
>
>
> 1) If we include a human element, we need to focus on the human and not 
> the disability.  I kind of like the Vitruvian man concept.  We also seem 
> to have adopted it in "Universal Access" and "Assistive Technology 
> Preferences" menu item icons.  Maybe a larger Tango-ish version would 
> work well?  (PS - too bad we couldn't give the man a GNOME footprint 
> tattoo or GNOME feet. Tattoos are cool: 
> http://live.gnome.org/Orca?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=orca2-sm.jpg)
>
> 2) If we don't include a human element, we could focus on the tools: 
> braille, speech, magnification, closed captioning, on screen keyboard, 
> high contrast, external switching device, etc.  I've seen octopus logos 
> in the past that attempt to integrate elements of the tools, but they 
> tend to get very busy.  I think a creative type might be able to 
> simplify things and I don't think we need to consider including *every* 
> tool.  The more common stereotypical tools might be sufficient.  Maybe a 
> high contrast footprint with various tool elements?  Here's some 
> interesting existing logos:
>
> http://www.wsiconsultants.com/dynamic/upload/web_access_logo.gif
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/Nuvola_apps_accessibility-directory.svg/600px-Nuvola_apps_accessibility-directory.svg.png 
>
> http://www.winfieldks.org/images/pages/N239/accessibility%20symbol.gif
>
> I've also seen themes that incorporate a keyhole, though these have 
> never really meant much to me.  The typical one is a globe of the earth 
> with a big keyhole in it (can't find an image right now).  Others 
> include just a door with a key going into a keyhole.  The notion is 
> "unlocking doors"; it's always seemed kind of resentful to me.
>
> Anyhow, I'm psyched some movement is happening here and I thank you all 
> for participating!  :-)  No matter what is done, some people won't like 
> it.  My challenge to those people is to come up with a better idea.  ;-)
>
> Will
>
> Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> > Calum Benson wrote:
> > > On 31 Jan 2008, at 14:45, Willie Walker wrote:
> > >
> > > > Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Willie!
> > > > > Sorry that it took a while before you got any response.
> > > > > Did this for the ATK section on the new gtk.org website:
> > > > > http://andreasn.se/diverse/temp/a11y.png
> > > > > http://andreasn.se/diverse/temp/a11y.svg
> > > > >
> > > > > cc:ing tango-artists in the hope of more ideas.
> > > >
> > > > Neat!  I'm going to be seeing some a11y folks today and will pass this
> > > > by them.  It matches various other icons in the space and is very 
> > > > simple.
> > >
> > > Don't wish to sound too critical here, but to me, this doesn't so 
> > > much say "GNOME accessibility logo", as "identical to Apple's 
> > > accessibility logo, but without the circle round it":
> > >
> > > http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
> > >
> > > No, I have no idea what a more GNOME-ified accessibility logo would 
> > > look like, but it sure would be nice to have one :)
> > Hi Calum.
> > Yeah, you´re right, it looks too much like their logo. I guess they 
> > took the idea from our old friend Leonardo as well :). [1]
> > Perhaps it would be interesting to do something on the theme of the 
> > Vitruvian Man, but in another style?
> > 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitruvian_Man
> > - Andreas