RE: gnome-3.16.x without systemd

[John Frankish <john frankish outlook com>]

> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > To: gnome-shell-list gnome org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: gnome-3.16.x without systemd
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2. systemd-shim (limited support for some of the systemd apis)
-development halted
> > > > systemd-shim is not an reimplementation of logind, its a wrapper to
allow
> > > > the use of systemd logind and a few other components without 
> > > > requiring systemd init. It certainly provides enough for a full 
> > > > GNOME support up to 3.14 and probably 3.16, we were using it in 
> > > > Ubuntu GNOME up until the recent switch
> > > > to systemd init, and it worked well.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know where you heard development is halted, Canonical will 
> > > > need to keep maintaining it so long as they still have upstart in 
> > > > the archives.
> > > I based the comment on the fact that the last commit to
> > > https://github.com/desrt/systemd-shim
> > > was Dec-14, but maybe Ubuntu uses a different git repo?
> > >
> > > That notwithstanding, I'm trying to make 3.16.x work and the only 
> > > way forward would seem to be to
> > > debug the "gnome-shell.desktop failed to register" error, hence the
> > > request for help :)
> > bump?
>
> Check out Devuan: supposed to be a Debian derivative without systemd.
> So far it's vaporware, but they might be able to assist in this regard.
> I wouldn't expect the Gnome Development community to be the place to ask.
> Devuan has a website: https://devuan.org/
Thanks for Devuan link - it does indeed appear to be vapourware so far.

I would have thought that the gnome development community was exactly the
place to ask why I cannot get stderr output from gnome-shell when called by
gnome-session.

Is it possible to get js log and js error messages from gnome-shell by using
something like:

int
main (int argc, char **argv)
 {
freopen("/tmp/mystderr.txt", "w", stderr);

and then:

log('mymessage ');

Or, if this is not the way, how do I get them?

Regards
John