Re: gnome-shell-list Digest, Vol 78, Issue 2

[Ramaddan <ramaddan gmx com>]

 

Hi,

 

I thank you for your replies.

 

Just to clarify the idea I was suggesting.

 

When in gnome shell, a person can have a workspace that presents itself dynamically or set to a certain number of workspaces.

 

The classical and historical number used was to start with 4 workspaces as default, per user session.

 

The main idea I was suggeting was to be able to lock one of these workspaces, so that no one can access or see the applications used in that workspace.

 

To further that original idea was to be able to "log in" with another user on one workspace.

 

Thus, when switching to that workspace, mainly all the files of that user become accessible, as well as the applications he is using.

 

In a sense, the idea od running a certain application using a certain user came to my mind, like using chroot with a specific user to run some apps.

 

Even if that is not possible, the original idea, was to at least to be able to lock a chosen workspace, until the user inputs a password to be able to use it again and the applications he left running on that workspace.

 

The idea was not to make a whole new session, which would be a full fledge mutiseat system, which is a demanding task (although nice :-P).

 

Thanks

 

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 13:45:34 +0000 (UTC)
From: Leslie S Satenstein <lsatenstein yahoo com>
To: Javier Domingo Cansino <javierdo1 gmail com>, Ramaddan
<ramaddan gmx com>
Cc: gnome-shell-list <gnome-shell-list gnome org>
Subject: Re: Lock specific workspace
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Creating a workspace as a home directory of another user essentially locks it.
Want a specific user to have access to that other's home directory, you can give user group access to other's home directory. That will do it.But giving him read-only access also means rights to copy.
If you want usage only, you can do it other ways, via other Linux facilities.

?Regards
?Leslie
Mr. Leslie Satenstein
Montr?al Qu?bec, Canada



From: Javier Domingo Cansino <javierdo1 gmail com>
To: Ramaddan <ramaddan gmx com>
Cc: gnome-shell-list <gnome-shell-list gnome org>
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: Lock specific workspace

Isn't that what you could do with VNC booting up several sessions on the same user? Anyway, it doesn't work well with gnome-shell to have more than DE for one user... I think it's some dbus thing
On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Ramaddan <ramaddan gmx com> wrote:



Hi everyone,?I have enjoyed using gnome shell since it came out, and would like to first thank you for your great work.?I sent a similar message to the nautilus-gnome list, and was about to include this suggestion in that message, but then realized it should be posted to a separate list than the nautilus list.?This is my first time posting on these lists, but I was wondering if anyone suggested the following:?Having the option of making workspace behave independently:?1 - Being able to lock each workspace at will, and that workspace cannot be viewed an what is on it unless password is given?2 - Being able to have more than one user, each using a separate worspace, and this can behave like running a subuser for the workspace, under a main user for the whole desktop?3 - Being ale to logout from subuser, and then the workspace returns as belonging to the main user?This can be nice for a quick operation without having to logout of the current desktop session for example.?It comes
close to multiseat, but not fully.?Hope this is a useful idea.?Thanks again for your time
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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 16:59:28 +0200
From: Bazon Bloch <bazonbloch arcor de>
To: gnome-shell-list <gnome-shell-list gnome org>
Subject: Gnome 3.16 applications in other desktop environments have an
ugly frame around their windows now
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With Gnome 3.16, applications like nautilus, totem, file-roller, evince,
gnome-calculator and others in other desktop environments (XFCE, KDE) have
an ugly frame around their windows now. It's probably a not working shadow.
See e. g. http://i.imgur.com/tNdVSI6.png
(Screenshot made with XFCE and kwin, but it happens with xfwm4, too.
GTK theme = Adwaita-Manjaro. With pure Adwaita, the frame is slightly
thinner and white, but still exists.)

This is probably related to
https://blogs.gnome.org/fmuellner/2015/01/30/a-small-note-on-window-decorations/

Does anyone know how to get rid of this frame in other DEs?

Thanks.
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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 17:05:43 +0200
From: drago01 <drago01 gmail com>
To: Bazon Bloch <bazonbloch arcor de>
Cc: gnome-shell-list <gnome-shell-list gnome org>
Subject: Re: Gnome 3.16 applications in other desktop environments
have an ugly frame around their windows now
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On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Bazon Bloch <bazonbloch arcor de> wrote:
> With Gnome 3.16, applications like nautilus, totem, file-roller, evince,
> gnome-calculator and others in other desktop environments (XFCE, KDE) have
> an ugly frame around their windows now. It's probably a not working shadow.
> See e. g. http://i.imgur.com/tNdVSI6.png
> (Screenshot made with XFCE and kwin, but it happens with xfwm4, too.
> GTK theme = Adwaita-Manjaro. With pure Adwaita, the frame is slightly
> thinner and white, but still exists.)
>
> This is probably related to
> https://blogs.gnome.org/fmuellner/2015/01/30/a-small-note-on-window-decorations/

No it isn't.

> Does anyone know how to get rid of this frame in other DEs?

This looks like it tryes to draw a shadow and fails to do so because
you are not using a compositor.
So file a bug against gtk.
As a workaround enable the compositor provided by your DE.


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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 15:08:41 +0000
From: Florian M?llner <fmuellner gnome org>
To: Bazon Bloch <bazonbloch arcor de>, gnome-shell-list
<gnome-shell-list gnome org>
Subject: Re: Gnome 3.16 applications in other desktop environments
have an ugly frame around their windows now
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On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 4:59 PM Bazon Bloch <bazonbloch arcor de> wrote:

> This is probably related to
> https://blogs.gnome.org/fmuellner/2015/01/30/a-small-note-on-window-decorations/


No, it's definitively not related. That post is about a change in how
mutter/gnome-shell draws server-side decorations, so it has absolutely no
effect
(1) when using a different window manager
(2) for applications that are not decorated by the window manager

In this case, both (1) and (2) apply ...
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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 16:42:23 +0100
From: Emmanuele Bassi <ebassi gmail com>
To: drago01 <drago01 gmail com>
Cc: gnome-shell-list <gnome-shell-list gnome org>
Subject: Re: Gnome 3.16 applications in other desktop environments
have an ugly frame around their windows now
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Hi;

On 10 April 2015 at 16:05, drago01 <drago01 gmail com> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Bazon Bloch <bazonbloch arcor de> wrote:
>> With Gnome 3.16, applications like nautilus, totem, file-roller, evince,
>> gnome-calculator and others in other desktop environments (XFCE, KDE) have
>> an ugly frame around their windows now. It's probably a not working shadow.
>> See e. g. http://i.imgur.com/tNdVSI6.png
>> (Screenshot made with XFCE and kwin, but it happens with xfwm4, too.
>> GTK theme = Adwaita-Manjaro. With pure Adwaita, the frame is slightly
>> thinner and white, but still exists.)
>>
>> This is probably related to
>> https://blogs.gnome.org/fmuellner/2015/01/30/a-small-note-on-window-decorations/
>
> No it isn't.
>
>> Does anyone know how to get rid of this frame in other DEs?
>
> This looks like it tryes to draw a shadow and fails to do so because
> you are not using a compositor.

I don't think that's the case.

> So file a bug against gtk.
> As a workaround enable the compositor provided by your DE.

If no compositor is detected, GTK+ already draws a full border, no
rounded corners, and no shadow.

See bug: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746222

Ciao,
Emmanuele.

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