Re: Gnome 3.4 breaks sloppy mouse focus?

[Josh Leverette <coder543 gmail com>]

perhaps there should be an indicator to let users know if there are application specific menu items hidden in the global menu?

Sincerely,
Josh

On Feb 29, 2012 2:25 PM, "alex diavatis" <alexis diavatis gmail com> wrote:

Of course, it would be wonderful or terrible if we have global menus,
but we don't. We have "Application Menus"... what's the difference?

 

I just tried shell 3.3.5 on Fedora 17 alpha, and I noticed the application menu on Gnome Docs. This is a bit confusing

because it isn't like global gnome app menu, but is quite specific to Gnome Docs. Gnome Docs hasn't any kind of

menu but global menu. 

So every time the user should check global menus for extra functionality on any App, or he might miss extra functionality

because he won't check global menus.

I think that Shell UI is very intelligent and smart, but this feature seems like a step backward. I personally like hidden menus,

like Firefox. One button, BOOM, mega menu.

Application menu, is good for options like "create new, close, move to another workspace, etc" but not for display grid or list

view on Gnome Docs. That option I think it should belong to GTK App Menu.

On the other hand, you do great job and I trust every single change you made!

Keep up good work, 

Cheers..

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam whitemice org> wrote:

On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 17:38 +0000, Gabriel Rossetti wrote:

> I just read this
> (http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/2012/02/28/looking-forward-to-gnome-3-4/) article on Gnome 3.4. It looks like since it’s forcing the new global menus breaks the sloppy mouse focus, how are you going to fix this (are you? I hope so...)?

Well, it says "Application menus have now arrived, so that GNOME
applications can place a menu in the top bar. "

I don't know that this necessarily implies a Mac like menu system [I
certainly hope not, that would certainly drive me from GNOME;  and I'm a
huge fan of GNOME3].  It just says applications *can* place menu in the
top bar.  I think there are cases where this is appropriate.  It would
certainly be better than the lousy status icon in the constantly
vanishing, hovering, vanishing bottom notification bar that apps like
banshee currently use.  [Note: not a critcism of Banshee, Banshee ROCKS!

]

> What I don’t quite understand, is that one thing a lot of people hate
> about unity is the global menus, I even read an article saying that in
> future versions of Mac OS X it’s possible that it will disappear

I know nothing about Mac OS/X.  And I don't find what they choose to
do/not-do to be particularly relevant or interesting.

>  (sorry, no longer have the link), so why is Gnome Shell switching to
> it? If it was optional then I’d understand, some people may like that,
> but others don’t.
>

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