Re: Is the Minimize button still useful with gnome-shell ?

[David Mulder <greatslovakia zoho com>]

I personally hated the compiz grouping options, as it took an extra step before you could access other windows (hovering over the titlebar). Think about how you use tabs in your browser/editor, the point of tabs is that you can switch in a split of a second to another tab and yet keep a clear overview of all 'windows'/tabs. The main reason taskbars have disappeared is because tabs have taken this feature over (as taskbars were messy) and in my humble opinion it would be an extremely good thing if the OS/window manager would take control of this once again (both from the users point of view and the developers point of view). This is however irrelevant to this discussion about minimisation and should probably be continued in the tabs/windows discussion or an altogether new discussion about titlebars.

 David Mulder

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Thibault Saunier <saunierthibault gmail com> wrote:

I actually just tested the compiz tabbing feature, and I think that hour
2 idea are far from being incompatible. We could have the tabs showing
as miniature (as in compiz) when the user put the mouse on the top panel
where the window is. This way we optimize even more the space;)

On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 14:48 +0100, David Mulder wrote:

> Concerning the unused space, you might want to check out my recent
> post to the mailing list about windows and tabs, which in my humble
> opinion would be a lot better use of the space.
> David Mulder
>
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Thibault Saunier
> <saunierthibault gmail com> wrote:
>         Hello,
>
>         I have thought a bit about this issue, and my question is what
>         is the
>         titlebar for?  I think there is plenty of unused space on this
>         bar, and
>         it would be better to simply remove it when the window is
>         maximized
>         (that's what I have done for a while here). I am actually
>         thinking about
>         something like how ubuntu-netbook-remix works with maximus
>         ( http://lh4.ggpht.com/_3mLd5CtlHo4/S6l9bmok2DI/AAAAAAAAHNc/Wr382QvcqEY/s800/Screenshot.png), we would have a button to close (unmaximise could be a double
>         click or we could also have another button) the window on the
>         top panel
>         (along with the icon of the current application), and when we
>         click on
>         this little application icon, we could have an animation to
>         show that
>         the window goes to the top left, which means the overview (it
>         could be
>         in another place if we decide to change it).
>
>         When the window isn't maximized, we would have a titlebar
>         (still the
>         same way as it works with ubuntu-netbook-remix/maximus), this
>         titlebar
>         would have only a "maximize' button, the window icon on the
>         top panel
>         would have a cross to close the application, and click on this
>         icon
>         would have the same effect as before (show that the window is
>         going to
>         the overview).
>
>         I hope you understand what I mean, and that it could help us
>         all! I
>         would like to have opinons about this idea.
>
>         ps: sorry for not create mockups but I am to bad at it!
>
>
>
>         On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 22:55 +0100, François Jaouen wrote:
>         > Hello,
>         >
>         > (My previous post seems to have vanished away so here is my
>         second try)
>         >
>         > I've started to play with the very promising gnome-shell
>         and, at first,
>         > I was quite confused when I minimized a window and saw it
>         disappeared
>         > around the Activities label without any clue to restore it
>         back !
>         >
>         > Then I remembered that gnome-shell is all about using
>         several workspaces
>         > and I decided to leave my habit of working with only one
>         workspace (ten
>         > years of MS Windows practice is bound to take its toll) and
>         started to
>         > organize my windows into several workspaces. Half an hour
>         later, I was
>         > very comfortable with it.
>         >
>         > Hence my (open) question : Is the Minimize button still
>         useful with
>         > gnome-shell ? Wouldn't it be more in sync with gnome-shell
>         to have
>         > instead a collapse behind the title bar behavior as in
>         emerald (double
>         > click on the title bar) ?
>         >
>         > François
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