Re: Overview menu



Only testing can really determine what is the appropriate setup.  I'm particularly a fan of the title of the window showing up on the bar.  Mostly because, I'm not really looking at it.  I'm too focused on the window I'm currently looking at it.  With the window title colored that's all the hint I need.  Plus every other OS is doing this so the user should be properly trained for that visual cue.

Sorry, I thought we were talking about the "Activities" button not the window titles.  Perhaps in that case an icon is sufficient.  I'm all for not having it at all.  But for Activities I might probably replace with "Menu".  Most people know what that means, they'll search for something that looks like a menu given a blank screen.

sri

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Mark Curtis <merkinman hotmail com> wrote:

Also all the talk of saved space is of course, WIDTH, not height.  I've already have a few very long Windows titles from browsing the web that end up shifting over the clock since there wasn't enough room (though maybe that's more an issue to call for truncating)
"If you used an icon it leaves too much to interpretation on what that icon means." Well that's what starting this thread, the word "activities" leaves too much to interpretation as well.
Windows "Start" button is a poor analogy as it has been absent since Vista


From: sri ramkrishna me
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:36:43 -0700
Subject: Re: Overview menu
To: merkinman hotmail com
CC: gnome-shell-list gnome org


Well whether you have an icon or not, you're still using 25-48 pixels (whatever it is I don't remember) height so it's not that much saved space.  Plus, when a new user starts using the system "Activities" will probably alert them as a good place to start since it's the only word in the whole desktop.  This is similar to the "Start" button used in Windows.  If you used an icon it leaves too much to interpretation on what that icon means.

sri

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 7:26 AM, Mark Curtis <merkinman hotmail com> wrote:
Since the prospect of saved space seems to be ignored, here is another reason.  I think having an icon would better differentiate the button that activates the overlay from the part showing the currently active application.


Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:44:14 +0100
Subject: RE: Overview menu
From: broeckx gmail com
Hi all,
 
I fully agree with Pablo Marchant, Michael, (and others), that an attractive icon would be a much better choice than a word like: Activities or Menu or Start or Overview or Whatever.
Even a prominent and big icon uses less space then a word. If there is only 1 top-panel like GNOME-Shell has we need to be very conservative about what we do with the free space.
 
In my opinion the GNOME "feet" looks very good, we just need to create a nice version witch we can use for several years as button to enter the "Activities" menu. And distro's can replace the "feet" with their icon if they want to.
 
Just my 2 cents, :)
Kind regards,
 
 
2009/10/28 Bob CFC <linuxoflondon googlemail com>:
> How about Zoom instead of Activities? ?Apart from being a more
> attractive word it implies something to do/investigate for a new user,
> where activities could be misconstrued as a label for the window title
> on it's right.
>
> 2009/10/28 Pablo Marchant <pamarca gmail com>:
>> I also think that having the word "Activities" on your top left corner all
>> the time is unnecesary. It only wastes space, that perhaps could be used on
>> other stuff. I don't think it would even help a newcomer to understand what
>> it does...An icon would be much more attractive in that place.
>> Cheers!
 
>>> Regardless of it's name, I don't understand why I need to have
>>> "activities" in the top left hand corner of my screen at all times, prior to
>>> putting my mouse there I don't know what to expect form the word activities,
>>> and after I do I know what it does, descriptive naming does it no favours.
>>> It just needs to be attractive enough and familiar enough to entice people
>>> to put their mouse over it. Wouldn't an attractive icon do that job, as well
>>> as serving as a place for a distro to put it's branding. We know that
>>> windows has dropped the "start" from their menu, so its not exactly
>>> unfamiliar to just hone into the brand icon.
>>>
>>> Michael.

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