Re: raindrop messaging integration

["Shane Nuessler" <Shane Nuessler canberra edu au>]

Hi everyone,

I'm not a developer but I would like to add my opinion that the Raindrop
idea adds to the shell in a vital way.

It's fine to have a composited desktop with animations, overlays etc,
but what popular desktop environment doesn't have these things in
various forms. Integrating social networking into the shell itself is
progressive, not only enabling working with applications, documents,
files, the OS etc, etc, but directly with other people. If we could take
this even further and share applications, desktops, files etc through
the same shell/social network functionality then I believe we are then
moving the desktop into the 21st century. The composited desktop is
nothing new, and an overlay in itself won't help me stay connected with
the online communities I'm a part of.

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: raindrop messaging integration (William Jon McCann)
   2. Re: raindrop messaging integration (Sriram Ramkrishna)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:35:21 -0400
From: William Jon McCann <william jon mccann gmail com>
To: Bryan Clark <clarkbw gnome org>
Cc: gnome-shell-list gnome org
Subject: Re: raindrop messaging integration
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Hey Bryan,

Yeah it sounds like we do have similar goals and it would be great to
be able to work well together.  It seems like the Message Tray may be
a natural place for our designs to fit together.  While I don't have a
good idea of what this may mean yet (still digesting the links you
sent) I wanted to say it sounds like a great idea with a lot of
potential.

Would like to hear what you and others think.

Thanks,
Jon

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Bryan Clark <clarkbw gnome org> wrote:
> Hey -
>
> We just announced the release of Raindrop [1] a new messaging system
we've
> been working on for a little while now. ?I'm announcing to this list
because
> I think Raindrop could provide a lot of value to gnome-shell as many
of the
> design goals are similar. ?It's likely best to read the introduction
blog
> entry [2] and look over the limited code documentation [3] if you're
> interested but I'll give the 30 second run down here.
>
> Raindrop is being designed as a message system specifically for how
people
> communicate in today's web environment; i.e. email, mailing lists,
twitter,
> etc. ?The system itself is a CouchDB daemon service that knows how to
pull
> down your email and twitter (process and index them) and then can
serve them
> back as JSON objects. ?Raindrop includes a built in messaging web
> application that also gets served from the same place, you'll see
demos of
> it in the videos.
>
> We only had the chance to do a couple iterations and are working to
develop
> some real web apis [4] which could be useful for integration of
contacts,
> messages, and other data Raindrop provides.
>
> I'm not suggesting that gnome-shell pulls in Raindrop today and starts
using
> it, we are definitely not ready for that. ?I am hoping that
gnome-shell
> people will find Raindrop interesting and that we can start looking at
how
> we could work with each if it makes sense.
>
> Let me know if there are questions. ?I still can't seem to run the
shell
> with my thinkpad nvidia card but am looking for another system to try
it on.
>
> Cheers,
> ~ Bryan
>
> [1] http://labs.mozilla.com/raindrop/
> [2] http://labs.mozilla.com/raindrop/2009/10/22/introducing-raindrop/
> [3] https://wiki.mozilla.org/Raindrop
> [4] https://wiki.mozilla.org/Raindrop/WebApis
> [*] http://clarkbw.net/blog/2009/10/22/raindrop/
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:32:46 -0700
From: Sriram Ramkrishna <sri ramkrishna me>
To: William Jon McCann <william jon mccann gmail com>
Cc: gnome-shell-list gnome org
Subject: Re: raindrop messaging integration
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I went and built raindrop just to see what it can do.  I haven't quite
gotten a good grip on it yet.  It seems though that integration with
Zeitgrist might have some advantages.  I don't know what a visual shell
and
raindrop would do other than notifications?

sri

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 5:35 AM, William Jon McCann <
william jon mccann gmail com> wrote:

> Hey Bryan,
>
> Yeah it sounds like we do have similar goals and it would be great to
> be able to work well together.  It seems like the Message Tray may be
> a natural place for our designs to fit together.  While I don't have a
> good idea of what this may mean yet (still digesting the links you
> sent) I wanted to say it sounds like a great idea with a lot of
> potential.
>
> Would like to hear what you and others think.
>
> Thanks,
> Jon
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Bryan Clark <clarkbw gnome org>
wrote:
> > Hey -
> >
> > We just announced the release of Raindrop [1] a new messaging system
> we've
> > been working on for a little while now.  I'm announcing to this list
> because
> > I think Raindrop could provide a lot of value to gnome-shell as many
of
> the
> > design goals are similar.  It's likely best to read the introduction
blog
> > entry [2] and look over the limited code documentation [3] if you're
> > interested but I'll give the 30 second run down here.
> >
> > Raindrop is being designed as a message system specifically for how
> people
> > communicate in today's web environment; i.e. email, mailing lists,
> twitter,
> > etc.  The system itself is a CouchDB daemon service that knows how
to
> pull
> > down your email and twitter (process and index them) and then can
serve
> them
> > back as JSON objects.  Raindrop includes a built in messaging web
> > application that also gets served from the same place, you'll see
demos
> of
> > it in the videos.
> >
> > We only had the chance to do a couple iterations and are working to
> develop
> > some real web apis [4] which could be useful for integration of
contacts,
> > messages, and other data Raindrop provides.
> >
> > I'm not suggesting that gnome-shell pulls in Raindrop today and
starts
> using
> > it, we are definitely not ready for that.  I am hoping that
gnome-shell
> > people will find Raindrop interesting and that we can start looking
at
> how
> > we could work with each if it makes sense.
> >
> > Let me know if there are questions.  I still can't seem to run the
shell
> > with my thinkpad nvidia card but am looking for another system to
try it
> on.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > ~ Bryan
> >
> > [1] http://labs.mozilla.com/raindrop/
> > [2]
http://labs.mozilla.com/raindrop/2009/10/22/introducing-raindrop/
> > [3] https://wiki.mozilla.org/Raindrop
> > [4] https://wiki.mozilla.org/Raindrop/WebApis
> > [*] http://clarkbw.net/blog/2009/10/22/raindrop/
> > _______________________________________________
> > gnome-shell-list mailing list
> > gnome-shell-list gnome org
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