Rovanion Luckey wrote:
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> From: Rovanion Luckey <
rovanion luckey gmail com>
> Date: 2009/12/29
> Subject: Re: Application Switcher
> To: Carlos Martín Nieto <
carlos cmartin tk>
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> Yes I'm talking about countries in asia and all over the world. If you
> wish only to look at the western world there are many countries in
> eastern europe who do not use qwerty. And along that there are english
> speaking persons who do use Dvorak. But it sounds like the wasd
> feuture isn't going to be going mainstream anyways. The result being
> that there is no onehand way to orient trough the alt-tab application
> switcher.
>
> Anyhow, this idea can be broken down into two separate ideas, one much
> easier to implement than the other:
>
> The first idea being that currently marked application should be
> chosen when alt is released rather than the application switcher being
> shut down. Pressing and releseing alt again in the window chooser will
> then activate the marked window.
>
> The second idea being clutterifying the application switcher so to
> make the windows easier recognize. Maybe have all the windows
> belonging to an application halfhidden underneath the icon for the
> application and then when the application is hovered/chosen the
> windows are shown side-by-side.
>
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> 2009/12/29 Carlos Martín Nieto <
carlos cmartin tk>:
>> On lun, 2009-12-28 at 23:40 +0100, Rovanion Luckey wrote:
>>> I was using the application switcher in Gnome-shell thinking about how
>>> much it made sense to have the application switcher to actually switch
>>> inbetween applications, not windows. That's really besides the point
>>> which is usability. The great thing about it is that it reinovates the
>>> application switcher that was designed at a point in time when users
>>> did not have that many windows running at the same time. The general
>> This type of at-tab has been done by Mac OSX for quite a while already,
>> it's not new, just a good idea :)
>>
>>> application switcher is a cluttered interface and is therefor scarcely
>>> used. Grouping the windows by application is the same innovation that
>>> Microsoft did with their new taskbar, but lets not speak about the
>>> devil.
>> :)
>>
>>> The problem with the application switcher in its current state is that
>>> the transition between applications and windows is not as smooth as it
>>> can be. You do at the moment have to use weird and odd
>>> key-combinations to go from the application-row to the window-row. The
>>> wasd way of orientation is ruled out by the fact that large parts of
>>> the linux-using population does not use qwerty. That leaves the user
>> What large parts? Do you mean the Asian countries (or the French?).
>> There's not that many people using Dvorak, are there?
>>
>> At any rate, WASD is only there because Xephyr (an embedded X server
>> you can use to test the shell without affecting your real one) doesn't
>> set up the keys properly, so it's actually a debug feature (says the
>> code, anyway).
>>
>>> without qwerty having to use his right hand either by the arrow keys
>>> or the mouse. This is not optimal for fast application-switching.
>> You can use (and it's probably the fastest way) the mouse and
>> hover/click on the icon.
>>
>>> The idea would be that you when pushing alt-tab choose an application
>>> to switch to just as the application switcher works in it's current
>>> state. But only application-icons should be shown. And rather than
>>> than having the user to either push the applications icon with the
>>> mouse or press down-key on the keyboard the application/group of
>>> windows should be chosen when alt is released. If there is only one
>>> window belonging to the application there is nothing more to do than
>>> to switch to the appropriate desktop and show the window. If there on
>>> the other hand are multiple windows belonging to the same application
>>> these windows should be shown now just as windows are shown on each
>>> desktop in the activities view. So other windows on the current
>>> desktop should be pushed aside as the windows belonging to the
>>> application chosen quickly appear/slides in on the desktop. One may
>>> then use the tab key, the arrow keys or the mouse to select which
>>> window you want to go to. Keys to activate the window chosen could be
>>> the alt and enter keys, or why not space?
>> It could be useful, though it looks like a bit of a pain to implement,
>> but the developers should comment on that. Personally, I can see if
>> becoming more of a hassle than a help, but we can't know that until
>> someone implements it.
>>
>> cmn
>>
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