RE: Ximian !!!

[Matt <mjg23 yahoo com>]

I think we're all missing the bigger picture here.

we should always preface these kinds of conversations with:

1)  it's amazing that pilot synchronization is supported at all for
linux.  the fact that it works as well as it does normally is a huge
bonus.

2)  the clean, normally stable packaging that Ximian provides is
awesome, hands down.  the fact that we have this at all for linux FOR
FREE should NOT be taken for granted.

with that said, this kind of breakage should only be seen as a slight
inconvenience.  We'd only have a right to complain if this broke with
regularity which is NOT the case.

I'm anxious like the next guy to get this working again but let's keep
our perspective here.

Eskil and Ximian:  Keep up the good work!


On Tue, 2001-12-11 at 10:31, Ian Stewart VerizonWireless com wrote:
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Simon Woodward [mailto:sw-lists onyx net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:46 AM
> > To: gnome-pilot-list gnome org
> > Subject: Re: Ximian !!!
> > 
> > 
> > > This issue has already been covered, and it's not a bug in 
> > gnome-pilot,
> > > pilot-link, or evolution.
> > 
> > Covered, as I see, but not really effectively answered, and 
> > granted the
> > bug may not lie with gnome-pilot, pilot-link or indeed evoltion,
> > something which I obviously saw, hence the subject line ! 
> > This problem 
> > however exists and looking through the archives affects many people.
> > This may be an Ximian issue, but are people not concerned 
> > about ensuring
> > gnome-pilot is distributed in a working form ? 
> 
> Is it realistic to expect Eskil and company to be responsible for ensuring
> that Ximian ships their value-added derivative in a form that doesn't break
> existing installations?  I don't think so, not unless they are being
> compensated for their efforts.
> 
> > 
> > A lot of people are going to be managing their systems 
> > through Ximian /
> > Red Carpet and people are not going to want to have things repeatedly
> > broken,
> 
> Ximian has decided to make the latest and greatest versions of the various
> Gnome applications available to their client base at the earliest
> opportunity.  If somebody is dissatisfied with the relative lack of quality
> control this approach encompasses, they are perfectly free to go elsewhere
> for their distribution needs.  If enough people do so, either Ximian will
> change their practices or another company will serve the needs of those who
> value quality over time to market.  This is the nature of the Free Market
> system.
> 
> > if I was the developer I would be working with Ximian 
> > to ensure
> > this problem was resolved as a large percentage of my 
> > userbase would be
> > downloading / trying to use this software through Ximian's 
> > distribution
> > system.
> 
> Gnome-Pilot is an open source application.  You are perfectly free to work
> with Ximian to resolve this or any other issue without Eskil's permision.  I
> am certain the good folks at Ximian would not turn down the free help.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Ian
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