Re: [gnome-love] GNOME Goals birthday!

["Diego Escalante" <dieguito gmail com>]

Talking with Claudio I suggested him to push a mini-gnome-goal to
update README, HACKING and any file containing possibly outdated
contact information. Maybe even using a template as a guide. What do
you think?

On 3/20/07, Luis Menina <liberforce fr st> wrote:
> Hi to all GNOME lovers!
>
> The GNOME Goals project, launched by Vincent Untz last year (ok, I
> missed the birthday by 3 days ;-) ) has been mostly abandonned for a few
> months.
>
> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals
>
> For those who may not know, the GNOME Goals are an easy way for new
> contributer-wannabees to start helping GNOME in some way. It's one of
> the many gates to enter in the community, and join the project.
>
> I've recently talked to Vincent Untz about this subject at FOSDEM. I
> thought (like many others) that GNOME Goals were an important access
> gate, and it was sad that they started dying when Vincent had less time
> to push them forward.
>
> However, after seing Claudio Saavedra adding recently GNOME Goal #3 (
> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/ApplicationCategory ), and
> Xan Lopez wanting to spread some GTK love (
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2007-March/msg00017.html ,
>   http://live.gnome.org/GtkLove ), I thought it could be great if we
> could team up to have the GNOME Goals reborn from ashes.
>
> For this to happen, we should define some guidelines:
> - define the regularity of each goal (the 2-weeks basis looked good to
> have the project feel strong and alive)
> - define what to do with old goals (how to complete them)
> - define how a new goal is chosen, and who choses it
> - define people who can find qualified people to review the guidelines
> before a new GNOME Goal is launched (to avoid misleading people with
> incorrect guidelines as we did in the past:
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362604 )
> - define the different domains we want to cover (performance, HIG
> compliance, code update for new widgets, documentation, etc.), with some
> of them requiring NO programming knowledge.
> -define how we will popularize this action: gnome-love mailing list,
> wiki, blogs of the the teams members, planet.gnome.org and localized
> gnome planets. We could also when a goal is open cross post the annouce
> on another mailing list of the domain of that goal (for example on
> gtk-devel-list for GTK widgets migration, performance-list for performance)
>
> We should also have some rules:
> - the goals must be of reasonable size and of easy complexity.
> - they should be easily applied to many softwares. The patches are
> centralized on the wiki page, wich will be helpful for newbies who want
> to see how someone else did it, meaning they will really *learn* from
> the process.
> - the guidelines must be self explaining, so they can be easily understood
> - a goal can't be set if no team member has time to answer eventual
> questions about that goal
> - everything must be traced and centralized in bugzilla. Maybe with a
> the gnome-love keyword. All GNOME goals would then have the gnome-love
> keyword, without all the bugs with the gnome-love keyword being actually
> GNOME goals. That way people looking for easy tasks could also find
> GNOME goals among them.
> - an application that is not maintained, or for wich the maintainer or
> developpers never answer for help to achieve a goal should be removed
> from the applications list. Asking newcommers to work or write patches
> with nobody to help them, or read their work is awfully unrewarding, and
> we must avoid that as much as possible.
>
> The GNOME Goal #0 is : convert as many GNOME users we can to actually
> become *contributors*
>
> Here are some proposals. Tell me if you found them good (or bad)... All
> contructive remarks are appreciated.
>
> I'd also like to know if Claudio and/or Xan would be willing to put some
> time here, to build a GNOME Goals team...
>
> Let's make GNOME rock even more altogether!
>
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