Re: end-user whines about 2.10

["DmD (Spider) Ljungmark" <spider takeit se>]

On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 17:39 +0900, Ryan McDougall wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-30-03 at 10:16 +0200, DmD (Spider) Ljungmark wrote:
> > On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 10:39 +0900, Ryan McDougall wrote:
> > > 
> > > This applet was written by Sun for JDS and considered better than the
> > > the previous one. I'm not sure why the signal strength and silly
> > > monitors aren't good enough, but you are welcome to file a bug report
> > > and/or submit a patch. 
> > > 
> > 
> > Oh.  Quite simple reason really. 
> > They blink.
> > In an utterly obnoxious way in a desktop where the -only- thing that by
> > default changes state unless it -really- wants my attention is the
> > cursor for the mouse, that thing -blinks-.
> > 
> > //Spider
> 
> How would you prefer it to tell you its transmitting if it doesn't
> change state? In fact everything that I can think of conveys information
> by changing state. 

Frankly, I don't care about the transmitting or not information.  I
changed to the new monitor applet because the signal strength monitor I
had before was removed.

I care about the signal strength, not in means that I check it
regularly, but that I check it whenever things appear slow. Its a simple
convenience thing, I could probably use gkrellm or something else, but I
don't want to.


As for transmitting/not, the system monitor applet manages to show that
very well without actually -blinking-.  The key here is that movement is
usually acceptable as long as it is smooth and transient between states,
whereas blinking is not acceptable.

> 
> If you don't want it to convey information then why do you want it on
> your panel? Personally I have the panel that it is on on auto-hide so it
> only blinks at me when I want it to.

I want my panel constantly visible, because that is also where I have
the notification area, and I want my notifications.   I don't want the
transmit / no transmit info.  I got that, no matter if I want it or not
when I got the new functionality of the net monitor applet.

> 
> Perhaps what your looking for is a notification applet that tells you
> only when the link goes down? I think that would be a cool thing to
> write if you were so interested.

Actually, I wouldn't want that either.  My link goes up/down a few times
a day, and it would become notorious very soon.  :-)

>  If all you want is signal strength, both redhat and novell have their own notification applets.

They do? Can you point me to the package names and source repos for
these?



//Spider